The analogy to running applies to interviewing—you need to hold yourself back, have confidence in your conversational ability, be present and listen, and trust that the conversation will go in the direction it needs to go, like a dinner party where you don't prepare but engage genuinely with the person.

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Rich Roll

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Like in running, I'm gonna hold myself back... Do I have enough confidence in my conversational ability to just show up and be present and listen?

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Malcolm Gladwell Is Lord Of All Things Overlooked and Misunderstood | Rich Roll PodcastRich Roll
Created: 8/10/2026, 10:09:34 PM

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