David tells his PMs that he doesn't want to pay for plain beta (1.0 beta to the general market), but he's willing to let them run concentrated factor bets (e.g., 6x beta to AI factor) as long as it's not excessive; the pod shop extreme of zero factor exposure is equally wrong as the other extreme of pure market beta.

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David

Evidence Quote

I don't want to pay for beta. I'm not interested in guys like one beta uh to the general market... the pod chop extreme of zero is also bad. Um, especially especially at the individual factor level.

Source

This Ex-Poker Pro Built a Hedge Fund by Betting Against Beta – David Orr on Asymmetric BetsOdds on Open
Created: 8/12/2026, 6:42:53 PM

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