Debt is fundamentally a claim on future energy and materials, because money in your pocket is a claim on energy and materials when spent, and therefore aggregate financial claims are claims on real-world energy, materials, and ecosystem functioning—a constraint that did not bind as tightly 80 years ago.

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Nate Hagens

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It's a claim on energy and materials when we spend it largely. And therefore, debt is a claim on future energy and materials.

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Our Financial Predicament From a Systems Perspective with Lyn Alden | TGS 188Nate Hagens
Created: 6/18/2026, 1:58:51 PM

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