In Liang's framing, apps (like consumer interfaces) and APIs are 'sesame seeds' while AGI is the 'watermelon'; the company picks up seeds on the way but doesn't stop to harvest them, meaning peripheral products are accepted passively but not pursued strategically.

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In his metaphor, the app and the API are sesame seeds. AGI is the watermelon. You pick up seeds on your way, you don't stop for them.

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DeepSeek's Invisible Founder Just Talked for 4 Hours. It Leaked.Squintist
Created: 8/12/2026, 6:15:41 PM

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