
20 Uranium Companies Analysis + Status of Uranium Market - Fabi Lara
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Interview With Fabi Lara, a known name in uranium investing and resource space, founder of The Next Big Rush, the daily newsletter about mining and exploration. If you want to learn more about Fabi you can visit website https://www.thenextbigrush.com/
Recording date: May 7., 2024.
Chapters;
0:00 Intro 0:40 Stage for the big move in uranium 3:26 Valuations for explorers vs. developers 6:11 How is your portfolio structured 7:59 Rush Rare Metals & Myriad 13:37 Cameco Corp 14:26 enCore Energy 15:28 Ur Energy 17:36 Uranium Energy Corp 19:53 Denison Mines 21:47 Global Atomic 25:22 Goviex Uranium 27:34 Nexgen 31:05 Anfield Energy 33:31 Western Uranium and Vanadium 35:29 Forum Energy Metals 37:19 Atha Energy 39:01 Cosa Resources 41:21 Standard Uranium 43:21 F3 Uranium 45:47 Pegasus Resources 47:30 Skyharbour 49:11 Baseload Energy 51:20 Uranium companies on your radar 52:45 Other commodities besides uranium
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Fabiana Baciu argues the uranium market is poised for a multi-year bull market with compelling fundamentals, and investors should focus on developers and explorers in favorable jurisdictions rather than waiting for prices to rise further, as the supply-demand dynamics are already locked in for the next 5-10 years.
- Political will and production shortfalls (Russian ban, Kazakh/Cameco constraints) guarantee supply deficits that markets can price in advance
- Development-stage companies offer better risk-reward than explorers due to known deposits, while producers attract institutional capital first in commodity bull markets
- US-based uranium projects and projects with strong management teams trading at discounts to intrinsic value will outperform as capital trickles down
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In commodity bull markets, the first phase of capital appreciation flows to the largest producers (by liquidity and market cap) first, regardless of valuation; developers receive capital in the second phase; explorers only receive bids in the final phase, which only occurs if the bull thesis is still intact.
“the first leg of the bull market that you see is the the biggest names whether they are cheap or not it it's not that it doesn't matter but it kind of doesn't matter because if a fund really wants to get in on a story and that is their only option they know that all the other funds can only get in on that company as well and so they they're going to bid the price up...when I look at the developers I still see lots of value...I think it would be insane for us to expect the explorers to move first...we have realistically is a commodity Le bull market therefore the producers will get the bid first and then we know what happens developers next and then you know explorers last”
Gold developers are currently cheap relative to both current gold prices and long-term gold price expectations. The market has not updated expectations for where gold prices will settle, making developers attractive entry points before valuation normalization occurs.
“I would say gold um I really like gold developers right now it's hard for me to find one that isn't cheap compared to not just the current price of gold but a decent long-term price of gold I think the market needs to up its expectations of what the price of gold will be in the future”
Gold mining profitability is deteriorating despite higher gold prices because production costs have risen dramatically. The historical adage 'working a gold mine is like owning a gold mine' no longer applies; modern gold mining is financially challenged even at elevated prices, requiring higher long-term gold price assumptions to justify current production economics.
“look the price of gold has gone up quite a bit for us because we've seen the price flat for years and so for us to see any sort of movement up now it's it's a matter of going back to the producers and think okay the producers have gotten much better you know if you look from a a balance sheet perspective I get that that's great but it's not like they're gushing cash”
For Standard Uranium, the current situation is 'show me, not tell me'; discovering something in the Athabasca Basin is usually very rich and very high grade, which would completely change the story.
“if you miss that window then now it's a show and show and tell me show me not just tell me kind of uh play and I really like the guys behind it uh you know I've met with them several times but at the same time like you got to find something and sometimes it takes several years with Forum you know it took took a long time until they could get to this stage and I think that the the stage of standard right now is just okay where are they really going to hit it out of the park and then it it the whole story turns on its head right when you make a true Discovery in the aabas Basin it's usually very rich very high grade”
Political will to restrict Russian uranium imports to the US (via Senate passage of a Russian uranium ban) combined with production constraints from Kazakh (Kazatomprom) and Canadian (Cameco) suppliers create locked-in supply deficits that market participants can predict and price 6-18 months in advance.
“we we finally have the the senate in the US passing the the Russian bill against against uh Russian uranium coming into the US...what we see specifically in the uranium Market is that everything that happens happens so slowly that I almost feel like we're cheating because we're looking at what's happening and we're looking at the signals of what is going to take effect in the next six to 12 to 18 months Etc and we can for to make bets now on what we know for a fact is going to happen in the future because you know of political will of uh shortfalls in production and difficulties for example both kamico and Kazam prom not being able to massively turn on the spigots”
In commodity bull markets, stocks rarely trade at fairly valued multiples of NPV; instead, they tend to oscillate between undervalued and overvalued states, and NextGen will likely overshoot to the overvalued band because of the richness of its resource and ongoing exploration success, regardless of production timing.
“in the game of investing at least in my point of view in the game of investing you're very rare fairly fairly valued I can't find one company out there that I look at you know oh here are your projects here are your your npvs and we first of all do we even believe the npvs that that people are putting out yeah and you know your market cap is a brilliant refle reflection of your npvs plus minus cash debt Etc and you know this all works out to be a fairly valued company doesn't really work like that they're either under or overshooting so with NextGen it tends to overshoot because their resource so rich and the thing is they are actually still finding more uranium very far from their deposit that is extremely high grade so these guys can still manage to add value at a point where they don't really need to add value to the deposit the question in everybody's mind is when do they start producing and I'm not sure that really matters because when people are throwing their money at uranium to participate in the story uh and you have exposure to the richest you know development play that is still exploring and finding extremely high grade I think that they're going to overshoot and keep themselves in that higher band”
Global Atomic's Dasa project in Niger faces political uncertainty (transitional government, geopolitical flux between US and Russian influence) that creates financing risk regardless of geological merit; even with strong fundamentals, uncertain jurisdiction delays capital decisions, making the project's timeline and valuation dependent on geopolitical resolution rather than operations.
“the issue with that project is obviously uncertainty and investors hate uncertainty and so I think think that the the company has been really really hurt because Banks don't care if we believe that Tas is going to be developed they want to make sure that you know their investment is safeguarded and the current situation in ner is very messy now the government of ner the the current you know transitioning government or whatever it's called currently is whether it gives it the green flag or not I think is just one of the items that they need in order to make sure that they don't just get proper financing but they get good financing it it goes back to you know your energy did didn't get the best terms because they didn't promote enough so you you don't raise your prices to to get the best possible uh level of or the least possible level of dilution with global Atomic they did everything right and then something completely outside of their control is is making people question the it's not even whether daa will produce or not it's whether the project is going to be as valuable as it could be because we have to remember the bottom line of investing is you have to buy low in order to sell high but you have to sell High to somebody else who will pay higher than you”
US-based uranium projects are inherently superior investments to non-US projects due to political stability, regulatory clarity, and reduced geopolitical risk, making them 'no-brainers' for portfolio inclusion.
“I'm a fan of you know us-based uranium projects I think there are no-brainers”
In the investment game, companies are almost never fairly valued; instead they are either undervalued or overvalued relative to their NPV and market cap relationship, making the concept of 'fair value' nearly non-existent.
“I can't find one company out there that I look at you know oh here are your projects here are your your npvs and we first of all do we even believe the npvs that that people are putting out yeah and you know your market cap is a brilliant refle reflection of your npvs plus minus cash debt Etc and you know this all works out to be a fairly valued company doesn't really work like that they're either under or overshooting”
Enfield Energy's mill asset requires careful due diligence on the extent of required remediation and financing ability; company size and debt burden may create a mismatch where the asset value exceeds financing capacity, forcing either excessive dilution or project stalling, similar to broader mining capital constraints.
“I think that the mill is you know something that needs to be looked at and how much work does it actually need and can you actually get it over the line like we have to remember for some for some of these and this go this is just mining in general for some of these projects sometimes um you have an asset that is supposed to be worth something in your books but your market cap is too small for you to be able to do anything with it and so it comes down to okay how do we Finance this how do we advance it and then you have you run the risk of getting into too much debt and too large a debt for your market cap or you just don't get it at all because Bankers are smart”
Sky Harbor Resources operates a project-generator business model (Russel Lake and Lake Athabasca as flagship projects), has endured over a decade including the worst market conditions, and benefits from proximity to Denison's projects and relationship with Denison as a validation of team quality.
“Sky Harbor is a client of mine uh so I really really like Sky Harbor I have no idea how they have stood the test of time for so long because they've been around for I think over a decade now yes and they've been able to endure the worst Market we have ever seen and uh but let's face it they're project generator so they were able to do it because that's just a better business model if you want to survive um I am extremely excited by Russell and more you know their two uh Flagship projects uh not as excited about their other projects because you know they're they're being vented out but you never know they they have so many deals with so many other companies that you could get something you know like really really out of left field with one of their Partners that's a possibility which costs them nothing puts money in the bank for them which is a great deal but Russell and Lake I'm very very excited about I'm excited about the fact that they're so close to you know Dennison's projects and I love the Dennison connection within Sky Harbor I think that's a great Testament of the the quality of the team so Sky Harbor is one of those companies that if you want to get exposured to the athabaska Basin and you don't want a nitpick you know that is one of the companies that you you can just get exposured to many different products by buying into one so definitely want to watch at the very least”
Personal portfolio composition for a uranium specialist should be heavily weighted to development-stage companies (not explorers or producers), because developers offer asymmetric risk-reward in bull markets while the personal thesis conviction justifies patient capital allocation.
“I always prefer to have developers you know within my portfolio and I I always try to make that my biggest position...whether it's uranium or gold silver whatever I always prefer to have developers you know within my portfolio and I I always try to make that my biggest position”
Wyoming and other historical US uranium mining regions (Utah, Texas) contain known historical deposits that were mined profitably in the 1950s-1980s. These deposits are smaller and lower-grade than tier-one world mines, but repositioning these assets as 'development plays' (not pure exploration) is superior to exploring for new deposits because the uranium is known to exist.
“in Wyoming as well as a lot of different places in the USA because there has been a full bull market start to finish of uranium development back in you know from the 50s to almost the 80s you already have the resources and they're not up to Modern standards but you kind of know where the deposits are and you know that they are not super large they're usually on the smaller side uh they're also usually not super high grade uh but they did work at a certain time...when I look at that type of company and that type of project to me it's a development story not an exploration story”
For BaseLoad Uranium, valuation depends on who owns the stock and who is trying to get out; if there is excess supply in the float, the stock gets sold off regardless of technical progress, and this is part of mining investing that requires investigating ownership/selling pressure.
“sometimes it goes back to okay who owns the stock who is trying to get out you know those questions they need to be answered unfortunately that's part of the business it's not just about what can you find it's the supply demand story needs to translate to your particular stock and so if there's too much of the stock you know out in the market then the price goes down even if the story is getting better so it's an unfortunate thing”
Western Uranium (later Ur-Energy) suffered from a 'people problem' where management promised project advancement but failed to deliver relative to promises made. Fabby exited because she prefers companies that either honestly say they will wait for better conditions or companies that actually deliver on advancement promises.
“Western at the time had a how can I put this nicely it had a people problem where the people involved in the company um didn't really deliver the story that they were selling and so that's why I got out”
The uranium market today is better than it has ever been, with no plausible bear case that would move enough supply to derail the multi-year bull thesis across 5, 7, or 10 year horizons.
“I've never seen a market like uranium and I've never seen the uranium Market as good as it is now...I've never seen anything that's plausible I can't find anything that's longlasting and something that's really going to move enough pounds in the market”
Ur Energy is a highly conservative, non-promotional uranium producer that waited for current market conditions to restart production without engaging heavily with the investment community, and while operationally sound, the company's lack of marketing has likely hurt its ability to capture market attention and raise capital at optimal terms compared to more promotional competitors like Encore Energy.
“your energy I like I think it's probably the it's one of the least promoted companies in the business yeah and one of the most uh conservative solid conservative no BS uh and all they wanted to do is wait for what's happening right now to come back and produce yeah spot on...I think that they could have raise money you know in better way better conditions if they were more promotional they just showed the world who they really are and just you know decided to I don't know engage more with the investing Community”
Pegasus Resources is one of the cheapest exploration companies in uranium considering management quality and US-based assets. A small market cap ($5-15M range) creates opportunity for explosive percentage returns ('you can sneeze and accidentally triple your money'), and CEO Chris taking a hands-on marketing approach positions the company well for bull market participation.
“Pegasus is probably one of the cheapest companies out there cons considering uh the fact that we know for a fact it's a very serious management team wasn't always the case”
Cameco should be owned as a small portfolio allocation (not a core holding) specifically for liquidity—not for upside or contract quality—because large funds require liquid vehicles to deploy capital, making Cameco a necessary position despite less favorable contracts than expected.
“I like cico for the liquidity so I'll I'll give them a thumbs up okay”
Uranium Energy Corp (UEC) is led by dealmaker Amir Adnani, who has repeatedly negotiated to acquire distressed uranium and gold projects at far below market cost (e.g., projects with $100M spent selling for $2M), and UEC's stock rarely dies; it continuously cycles through acquisition, development, and production stages, creating compounding value despite high management compensation.
“I like like uh american-based companies I think that in general they're going to do very very well in this cycle and ueec has not just the characteristics that they can raise money with a lot less dilution because you know they're they're really good at the money game yeah but also air nanny I don't know how he makes the deals that he does but I don't know a better dealmaker in this business and so a project will sit there and everybody knows that 100 million have been spent on it and he'll come in and buy it for like 2 million yeah he did it with yeah he did it not just with urania he did the same thing with his gold company gold mining so I like it's hard to argue against a guy that is able to create that kind of value and yes obviously he he gets paid a pretty penny in order to do that but he is the very active and you don't see his companies die like they they don't die they just always grow there's always there's always something happening there's always the next step there's always an acquisition there's always you know they're gonna come back and produce”
In exploration, the unwritten market rule is that investors expect each successive drill hole to be better than or equal to the prior one; failure to report continued improvement (even if total uranium inventory grows) creates investor disappointment and stock underperformance, regardless of project merit.
“there is this Unwritten rule about Discovery and about the markets and I don't know if you know this but this is the reality you have to find better intercepts always out all times or else your price suffers yeah and it's idiotic to think about it because what matters in the end is can you extract it for more value than than what it costs but the expectation of the average investor is is the next hole going to be better than the first and it doesn't necessarily need to be they just need to find more uranium and it needs to be you know at a a depth and and like situation where can extract it for a decent profit so I think that we have to align those expectations”
Baciu does not own NextGen and avoids it specifically because she prefers smaller, troubled, or distressed companies with asymmetric upside risk, whereas NextGen is already recognized as 'sexy' and does not fit her personal risk-reward profile despite expecting new investors to do well.
“next gen is one that I've never owned um I'm not interested in buying it because I'm not into sexy stocks I'm Into You know the stuff that might go bankrupt I I like the stuff that is small or kind of dying and trouble I like to take that risk personally and I don't recommend it to most people but you know with NextGen if you own a bit in your portfolio you're likely going to do very well because newcomers are gonna come in and just bid the price up like it doesn't matter”
NextGen Resources' Rook 1 deposit is the richest, largest undeveloped uranium deposit globally, and despite expensive executive compensation, the company continues to add value by discovering additional high-grade uranium adjacent to the main deposit, signaling ongoing exploration upside beyond the baseline resource.
“next gen is the richest largest undevelopment sorry uh undeveloped uranium deposit in the world that's undeniable extremely unlikely that anybody else is going to you know get to that stage anytime soon excuse me because they made a their Discovery some 10 years ago and they've been able to to advance it against the mark Market which is even more impressive...they are actually still finding more uranium very far from their deposit that is extremely high grade so these guys can still manage to add value at a point where they don't really need to add value to the deposit”
Forum Energy Metals' Thelon Basin project, guided by exploration geologist Rebecca Hunter, combines excellent grades with a geological setting similar to the Athabasca Basin, and few competitors currently operate in the Thelon Basin, positioning Forum to potentially discover the next tier-one uranium district.
“I love the theelen bases I don't like how expensive it is I love the fact that at that energy is coming in and investing a lot of money in the theong bases...I think that it it is one of those companies that have been around for a long time and finally they were able to find the right person the right exploration mind yeah to go in there and just do the you know the hardest work possible in order to try to delineate a proper deposit uh the grades they're finding are excellent...we might see the beginning of the feel basis becoming you know like the next sexy thing after the athabaska basis...I think that not enough people are looking at the theong Basin and looking at just how similar that is geological geologically to the Athabasca and there aren't many players there and so I think Forum has today the technical Acumen to go in there and continue you know to make discoveries...Rebecca Hunter is on to something and she really knows her stuff that woman is an encyclopedia of of knowledge”
Goviex's Niger project (Madaouela) is at risk of license loss due to development delays, but the company is not a zero because it has other projects in different jurisdictions that create downside protection. The stock is a contrarian bet that 'things can get better but can't get that much worse' because the company's other assets provide a valuation floor.
“most people have admittedly bought into this into the gox story because of madella uh their ner project uh what I like about gox is that that's not their only project so my focus regarding gox is right now they they could lose their mining license in nir because they haven't been able to to Advance it for obvious reasons and if they lost that I think it would be very very bad but at the same time I don't think it's a zero”
Altar Energy's entry into the uranium market with substantial capital, existing assets, and M&A appetite signals serious institutional commitment to the uranium thesis and positions the company for aggressive growth through acquisitions in the Thelon Basin and beyond.
“I love how AA came out of nowhere as a big company it it was a very small tiny big company for us you know who play in in in very small companies and uh and they came in with you know all the money in the world and all the assets and doing deals and and this that and the other and I think it's a great Testament to how well people are starting to look at the thesis right to to be able to come up with a company that's so well formed right from the start it actually means that somebody out there cares about uranium and is willing to put their money where their mouth is uh I like AA more for the fact that it because you know it it started out so much bigger than the others they have momentum and so they were were able to you know have a lot of cash from the beginning um buy a project I think they're far from done on the m&a front I think there's a lot of m&a in their future yeah and I really like that the you know that they're so in love with the Felon Basin”
F3 Uranium has made a legitimate, extremely high-grade discovery with excellent technical team, but faces a 'hard ceiling' on stock price that resists upward movement despite technical advancements. This suggests a disconnect between discovery quality and investor enthusiasm, possibly tied to shareholder structure or overhang issues that need to be resolved.
“F3 is a former client um amazing Discovery I don't know to what extent they can grow that that's still a question mark that's open um the thing with F3 right now at this very moment is that there looks to be and I'm not I'm not a technical analysis kind of person but there seems to be like this hard ceiling on their price and it just cannot Pierce through”
Standard Uranium suffered through some of the worst years in the business and faced serious exploration challenges; the best move was pivoting to a project generator business model, which they eventually did after years of struggle.
“standard uranium has suffered a lot because they they went through some of the worst years in the business and they have had you know just serious challenges in their exploration programs you know things just not working out for them in many operational fronts yeah which is sad uh and I think that the best thing that they could have done is what they have finally done which is you know become more of not just a sole exploration business but more of a project gener generator”
Encore Energy became a profitable uranium producer after starting from essentially zero, has recently caught a bid, and the key question for future upside is whether they will pursue aggressive M&A or continue advancing their existing project portfolio—without major strategic steps, stock appreciation may be limited despite strong operational performance.
“encor energy was my biggest uh success story ever I absolutely love it um I don't own it anymore um I am surprised it's catching a bid right now and it's strengthening so my question is is there something happening but you know behind the scenes that we don't know about or is this purely uh you know the company has been able to advance it enough and you know become a producer from absolutely uh nothing um but what's next for them my question to Encore is what's next are you going on a bind spree are you just advancing the projects that you have so I look at it on a positive side I just don't know how much higher they can go you know without some massive steps”
Kozai Resources is the 'golden boy' of Athabasca Basin exploration in 2024, but has not yet reported exploration results from winter drilling programs; silence on radioactivity readings or CPS data raises questions about either lack of discovery or strategic withholding of results.
“kosa if I'm not mistaken has not reported anything yet and at least at the time of this recording and something that I expected them to do is if they came up on any you know radioactivity levels CPS readings that they'd be putting that out and they didn't now have they not done that because they haven't found anything yet or have they not done that because it's just a strategy and they are choosing not to put you know their their results out”
Rush Rare Metals' Boxy project in Quebec contains showings with over 20% mineralization of both high-grade uranium and high-grade niobium in a dyke (intrusion) structure close to surface, where surface samples have returned world-class grades, and the current development phase is shallow drilling (7-10 meters) to test continuity and depth before advancing to deeper drilling and large-scale development.
“you have showings of over 20% percent uh 20% mineralization there and you have really high grade niobium and you have really high grade uranium...it's basically an intrusion so it's it's a dyke right so it's almost like imagine you have a bowl of yogurt and you have like a chip that fell into the yogurt and the chip is very different to the yogurt and so the the chip is uh we don't know how deep it is but you know we have an idea that you know it's it's a few kilometers long and everywhere that we've grabbed along that chip is really high grade so far now what we're going to do right now is we're going out there and we're drilling you know fairly shallow holes that you don't need a very special license to to operate so we go in and drill you know 7 to 10 meter deep holes”
Encore Energy represents Fabby's biggest historical success, but she no longer owns it and is uncertain whether the company can achieve meaningful growth beyond its current development stage without 'massive steps' (major acquisitions or dramatic production expansion).
“encor energy was my biggest uh success story ever I absolutely love it um I don't own it anymore”
Fabby is not planning to add new uranium company positions in the near term beyond what she already holds, because: (a) most new exploration IPOs are priced at premiums and are 'too risky,' (b) her current holdings already provide the exposure she wants, and (c) she prefers development stories and US-based plays, which she already owns.
“are there any Uranian companies that are on your radar now to buy them for the first time I mean not the positions you already hold but some potential Uranian companies to buy for the first time to buy for the first time probably not um I know that there there are a few companies you know coming around and and there there will be a couple of really interesting ones but the what I see happening right now is too too many companies that take the you know the Pure Play exploration route that are way too risky you know maybe they ipoed at a premium”
Anfield Energy had management compensation that was not commensurate with the company's size and development stage when speaker owned it; this may have improved, but the speaker has not looked closely recently.
“anfield energy I used to own um and I sold several years ago when I figured and a lot of a lot of people come to this conclusion with ueec as well or this opinion it's not a conclusion it's it's not black and white it's just an opinion um I thought that the the management um compensation was not commensurate with the size and development stage of the business back then maybe that has changed”