YouTube1h 48m· Sep 2025· cataloged

How to Build a Powerful Cult


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No.1 PR Expert LULU CHENG MESERVEY reveals how to engineer trust, get people to pay attention to your message, make yourself a hard target online, and master communication.

Having been CCO and EVP of Corporate Affairs at Activision Blizzard and VP of Comms at Substack, she is now the creator of Rostra, the only advisory firm focused on founder-led comms.

Learn more: https://fs.blog/knowledge-project-podcast/lulu-cheng-meservey/

*22 Takeaways From This Episode* 1. Conviction beats logic. 2. Under attack? Spread the force (pressure equals the force divided by the surface area). Attacking? Focus on a specific point. 3. In order of how much it matters: the hook is first (to get attention), then how you tell your story, and finally where you tell it. Most people get this wrong. 4. You have to fight story with story. 5. Facts don’t win hearts and minds. 6. Stories trump statistics. One death is a tragedy. A thousand is a statistic. Stories always win. 7. People remember 2-3 things about you. Don’t let them be random. 8. If you have a repeated game of long-term relationships and repeated interactions, the optimal strategy is actually tit for two tats. You can cross me once, and maybe I’ll let that go, but if you cross me the second time, I never will. 9. No spokesperson can tell your story better than you. 10. Deterrence matters: Establish that you’re not a soft target. If you can establish that you’ll fight back, you’ll make the rest of your life so much easier. 11. Reality bends to whoever tells the better story. 12. Let your inner circle tell you you’re wrong, or strangers will embarrass you. 12. Use common words. Everyone gets it. No one feels stupid. 13. Trust = Not a stranger + shared values + common ground first. 14. We’re more convinced by people we like, and we like people that we trust. 15. Humor creates involuntary likability. 16. Apologize when wrong. Never when right. Most do the opposite. 17. Cult leaders speak directly. So should you. 18. Corporate speak is everyone copying everyone, saying nothing. 19. The wizard behind the curtain gets no trust. Show your face. 20. Every unicorn pitched the impossible with impossible conviction. 21. Reality is subjective. You can bend it to your will if you’re able to communicate to people who matter in the ways that strike them in the heart and in the mind to get them to see the world the way that you do. 22. You don’t build believers with press releases.

*Chapters* (00:00) Introduction (01:30) Getting People to Pay Attention to Us (05:01) How To Find Your Narrative (06:30) Communicating to Many People at the Same Time (08:42) Start Every Communication with This (08:59) The Key Elements of Communication (10:26) How Much Time You Have to Get Someone's Attention (11:50) How to Formulate a Hook (12:47) Intellectual and Cultural Erogenous Zones (14:35) Why Do Governments & Corporations Communicate So Poorly? (19:10) Communications as a Tax (20:48) Goodwin's Law (21:50) How To Build A Cult (27:56) The Two Personal Traits That Impact Your Message (29:34) How to Engineer Trust (32:20) Show Up And Defend Yourself (33:51) Make Yourself a Hard Target (36:05) Strong and Weak Deterrence (39:19) Responding To a Public Attack (42:57) Stories vs. Statistics (43:04) If You're Fighting A Story With a Statistic, You're Losing (47:34) The Importance Of Being First (55:22) Overcoming Being The Underdog (1:00:03) How To Play Offense In PR (1:05:36) 3 Things To Make A Difference In Your Comms / Storytelling (1:21:07) The Halo Effect (1:25:52) Practical Comms Advice For Everyday Work Interactions (1:46:17) What Is Success For You?

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Sharpest takeaway

Lulu Chang Maservi argues that effective communication requires finding the intersection between what you want to say and what your audience cares about, then conveying that message through a trustworthy messenger with conviction, using narrative and specificity rather than statistics to move people to action.

  • The Venn diagram overlap of speaker intent and audience interest is the real story to tell; ignoring either circle fails
  • Stories beat statistics because humans are wired to care about individual narratives over aggregate data
  • Founder/leader conviction transmitted directly (not through proxies) is the only tool that can overcome apparent impossibility and recruit believers

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The surface area of attention opportunities is getting finer, so the hooks we use need to become sharper to stand out in a noisy world filled with AI-generated content and constant announcements.

factualhigh valueestablishednovelty 2/4durability 3/4· Lulu Chang Maservi

The surface area of the opportunity we have to latch on is getting more and more fine which means that the hook that we need to use has to get more and more sharp.

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Human conviction is a powerful psychological force that people find difficult to resist, even when the logical merits of a proposal are poor, because we are wired to respond to direct eye contact and absolute certainty from another person stating something is true.

causalhigh valueestablishednovelty 2/4durability 3/4· Lulu Chang Maservi

There's something within us that responds to another person's conviction. Like when you see cult leaders being able to recruit or terrorist group leaders being able to recruit, their actual pitch on the merits is horrible... there's something within us that finds it really hard to resist when someone is just looking us in the eye and telling us with absolute conviction that something is true.

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Narrative arc is critical to breaking through noise; people respond to stories that are part of something bigger where they must stay tuned to find out what happens next, following the Scheherazade principle that people return for the next installment of an ongoing story.

causalhigh valueestablishednovelty 2/4durability 3/4· Lulu Chang Maservi

If I tell you that this is part of something bigger and you need to stay tuned, then it gives you something to hang on to. So this is like the 101 nights shaherad... she was going to be beheaded and then she told a little bit of a story and had to wait till the next day and then told a little bit and then after a thousand1 nights he was like you know what great you can go.

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People who have faced attacks and had to defend their positions repeatedly (like Ben Shapiro, Charlie Kirk, and CEOs like Palmer Luckey) become sharper and more intellectually resilient than people who have been coddled and surrounded by yes-men, because regular sparring improves cognitive sharpness even for people you disagree with.

causalhigh valueestablishednovelty 2/4durability 3/4· Lulu Chang Maservi

People who spend a lot of time sparring are sharper than the people who haven't had to spar. They are just sharper and better... even the people who hate them and hate their positions can't say that they're not sharper... They don't freeze when they're confronted with skepticism. Whereas, when you see sometimes CEOs that have been more coddled... if someone disagrees with them online... they actually don't really know what to do.

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When someone critiques you online, appearing in person (even in text) and engaging directly often causes the critic to immediately fold because human-to-human contact makes it hard to maintain the abstract hostility of anonymous dunking; this is a powerful communication tool for leaders.

causalhigh valueestablishednovelty 2/4durability 3/4· Lulu Chang Maservi

When people are insulting someone or dunking on someone, but then that person shows up and says, Thanks for your feedback. The original person who was insulting them or dunking on them almost immediately folds... once you're actually confronted by a person instead of just like a concept... we behave in a completely different way.

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Human beings gravitate toward human stories and individual characters over generic content because human content gives them something to care about, a person to root for, and an attachment point that distinguishes it from the infinite supply of content.

causalhigh valueestablishednovelty 1/4durability 4/4· Lulu Chang Maservi

We've always gravitated to human beings and human stories. And I think we gravitate to that even more now because it gives you something to care about that's not just generic content. Like content is infinite, but individual human characters stand out from that. It gives you a person to root for, gives you something to get attached to.

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The problem with organizational communication is often framed as 'we need more communications' rather than 'we need better communications'; organizations hire communication staff measured on activity (number of communications) rather than on effectiveness, creating perverse incentives where staff generate activity without goal alignment.

causalhigh valueestablishednovelty 1/4durability 4/4· Lulu Chang Maservi

The answer was always like more comms, but nobody was asking like what's better comms?... It's not like we need to communicate more. It's... we need to be more effective at our communication.

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When fighting a story with a statistic, you're losing, because humans have a fundamental vulnerability to individual narratives over aggregate numbers; one person's tragedy connects emotionally while 'a thousand deaths is a statistic'—this is why charities show specific children rather than aggregate statistics.

causalhigh valueestablishednovelty 1/4durability 4/4· Lulu Chang Maservi

You know the probably apocryphal Lenin quote about one death is a tragedy, a thousand deaths is a statistic... the people who are pro-NAFTA... would say it'll lift our GDP by this much... Whereas, if you're anti-trade... This is Shane. He's got 12 children. He just lost his job. People will do anything to help Shane.

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Repetition and being told something by a trusted person are the two primary mechanisms by which people come to believe something, even if it initially seemed false or impossible; this is how founders convince people to take irrational risks.

factualhigh valueestablishednovelty 1/4durability 4/4· Lulu Chang Maservi

That is how people believe things. Repetition is one of the ways that people believe things. And another is being told something by someone that they trust.

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Legal liability costs might be $100M but loss of trust, future customers, employee defection, and missed recruitment could amount to billions, yet because legal costs are visible and immediate while reputational costs are invisible and delayed, CEOs tend to optimize for the visible cost and ignore the invisible one.

causalhigh valueestablishednovelty 1/4durability 3/4· Lulu Chang Maservi

Legal liability might cost you $100 million... But the loss in trust, the loss in future prospects, customers, employees who defect, that hire, that recruit that doesn't accept the job offer, it could add up to billions... The loss in trust, the loss in future prospects, customers, employees who defect... They're not visible and they're not immediate.

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The 'many' audience in one-to-many communication cannot be 8.5 billion people or 'the whole wide world' because having to water down your message to appeal to everyone makes it meaningless; instead, the audience must be a circumscribed set of people with shared characteristics, like 'people working at my company' or 'people passionate about robotics'.

normativehigh valueestablishednovelty 1/4durability 3/4· Lulu Chang Maservi

The many can't be infinite. The many can't be 8 1/2 billion people. That just doesn't work because if you're talking to that many people, if you're talking to the whole wide world, you have to water down your message so much that it becomes a drop in the ocean.

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Being interesting to someone is relative and depends on knowing who you're speaking to; if you try to be interesting to everybody, you end up marginally interesting to everyone; the way to be interesting is to speak to the specific interests and intellectual/cultural erogenous zones of a defined audience.

normativehigh valueestablishednovelty 1/4durability 3/4· Lulu Chang Maservi

It's be interesting to whom? What's interesting to one person might not be interesting to another. And if you're very clear on who you're speaking to, then you can make it maximally interesting for them... if you're trying to be somewhat interesting to everybody, now you're back to the eight billion people problem.

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Whoever frames an issue first has an advantage because a lie makes its way around the world before truth can get its pants on; therefore, if you anticipate attacks, you should do a 'pre-buttal' where you address criticisms before they are leveled, as demonstrated in the Eminem final battle scene in 8 Mile.

causalhigh valueestablishednovelty 1/4durability 3/4· Lulu Chang Maservi

Whoever comes out first has an advantage... a lie makes its way around around the world before the truth can get its pants on... If you know what people are going to attack you for, then you can get ahead of it and do the pre-rebuttal.

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Trust can be engineered through three mechanisms: (1) repeated exposure so you're not a stranger, (2) establishing shared values so you think alike, and (3) demonstrating that you keep your word consistently.

definitionhigh valueestablishednovelty 1/4durability 3/4· Lulu Chang Maservi

One is repeated exposure... you have to have a sense of who they are... Second is establish a set of shared values... they have to get a sense of how you think... three ingredients can be engineered... You can engineer trust.

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The halo effect causes people to assume that if someone is good in one domain, they are good in unrelated domains; this makes the messenger's credibility and values in one context (e.g., media strategy) extend to unrelated domains (e.g., pizza taste), and makes company affiliations affect perception of individual companies.

definitionhigh valueestablishednovelty 2/4durability 3/4· Lulu Chang Maservi

There's this thing called the halo effect. And um I I treat it more broadly... if you're good at if you're considered good in some arena, people will think of you as good in some other arena... why do I care what Dave Portoi thinks about pizza? I've never had dinner with him... because he's done a really admirable job in the media with his company... he's taken I think a very brave and principled stand on issues on Israel... It's what we were talking about earlier. is like if you agree on certain things people will sort of assume just using cognitive huristics and shortcuts that you'll agree on another thing too

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Most people overcomplicate communication by worrying about form (email vs. presentation vs. tweet) rather than about the substance of what they're trying to say; if you know what you want to say and why it matters, the form becomes secondary.

normativehigh valueestablishednovelty 1/4durability 4/4· Lulu Chang Maservi

People worry way too much about the form factor and not enough about what they want to say... whether it's an email or a text or a phone call or a presentation, know the thing that you want to say, say that. Then say why they should care.

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Tit-for-two-tats is the optimal strategy in repeated games: you can let someone cross you once, but if they cross you a second time, you respond with full force; this is superior to tit-for-tat because it allows for error or misunderstanding while still establishing strong deterrence.

definitionhigh valueestablishednovelty 1/4durability 4/4· Lulu Chang Maservi

Tit for two tats. So when people study game theory... in a repeated game... the optimal strategy is actually tit for two tats... you can cross me once and maybe I'll let that go, but if you cross me the second time, I never will.

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Using simple, common vocabulary that the audience understands is critical; jargon is acceptable only when the audience shares it, but most communicators use jargon when they should use simple words, creating confusion.

normativehigh valueestablishednovelty 1/4durability 4/4· Lulu Chang Maservi

Just use normal words too. Like just use words where everybody knows what they mean... use words that the other person is going to know.

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Trump is genuinely funny, which is a powerful communication hack because humor gets and keeps attention; being funny makes people weirdly likable even if they disagree with everything you stand for, because humor bypasses rational objection.

factualhigh valueestablishednovelty 1/4durability 3/4· Lulu Chang Maservi

He is really funny. He is the funniest president. Trump is the funniest president... Being funny is an incredible communications hack... keeping attention is harder than getting attention... being funny makes you weirdly likable.

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Body language and bearing communicate confidence, ease, and comfort far more than words; White House Press Secretary Kayleigh McEnany is effective not because of the content of her statements but because her body language and demeanor convey confidence that makes her statements seem credible.

factualhigh valueestablishednovelty 1/4durability 3/4· Lulu Chang Maservi

So much of communication is your body language and your bearing... For her, just showing confidence and ease and comfort and not showing anxiety or stress or anger or resentment is a big part of her persona. She comes off as a happy warrior... she delivers it is so comfortable and it's the bearing of somebody who has the facts on their side.

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First-mover advantage in narrative-setting is powerful: whoever frames the narrative and communicates it first gets a disproportionate advantage because the narrative becomes the default frame and rebuttals get less engagement than original framings.

causalhigh valueestablishednovelty 1/4durability 3/4· Lulu Chang Maservi

Whoever comes out first has an advantage. Um this is Winston Churchill says the a lie makes its way around around the world before the truth can get its pants on... someone will post something and then sometimes there's a great rebuttal and the rebuttal will get like onetenth as much engagement as the original thing.

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Attention span on social media is likely shorter than the often-cited 12 seconds; for video clips on social media, people decide whether to keep scrolling in less than 5 seconds, with 99% of people gone by 30 seconds, though text has different rules (first paragraph for emails, first sentence for tweets, first line for subject lines).

factualhigh valueestablishednovelty 1/4durability 2/4· Lulu Chang Maservi

If it's time through a clip on the internet, I would say like first 5 seconds they decide whether they're going to keep scrolling or not... after 30 seconds, like 99% of people are gone, right?

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The affect heuristic is a mental shortcut where if you like something, you perceive it as more likely to be real, competent, and smart; this is an evolutionary efficiency mechanism but can be leveraged through communication by building liking first.

definitionhigh valueestablishednovelty 1/4durability 3/4· Lulu Chang Maservi

We have different decision-making heristics... if we like something and feel comfortable with something, it's more likely to be real. Someone we like is more likely to be competent. Someone we like is more likely to be smart. All these things just kind of go together. And so liking is at the center of that.

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Corporate communication has become hollow because people entering PR roles look at what other PR people do and copy it mechanically, creating a recursive process where everyone mimics everyone else's mediocre output; this parallels an experiment where new mice were added to a cage where trained mice ran a specific route, and all the new mice followed the same pattern for no reason after all original mice were replaced.

causalhigh valuespeaker onlynovelty 2/4durability 4/4· Lulu Chang Maservi

It's like this experiment that I read about where they had mice in a cage and they were trained train to run a certain route and then they would put in a new mouse and take out the old mouse and they had fully replaced all of the mice like a ship of thesis with mice and all of the new mice were doing all of the behaviors of the old mice for literally no reason.

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Apologizing only when you've actually done something wrong, and never apologizing for things you haven't done, creates strong deterrence against future attacks; if apologies are decoupled from actual wrongdoing, attackers have incentive to keep attacking (lottery ticket for payout).

causalhigh valuespeaker onlynovelty 2/4durability 4/4· Lulu Chang Maservi

If everybody just apologized when they did something wrong and resisted apologizing when they did nothing wrong, so many problems would be solved... It's when people mess up and refuse to take accountability and then get accused of something where they didn't do anything wrong and apologize for that just to make it go away that everything gets muddled. And by the way, you lose all deter effect and you become a really soft target because whether you apologize becomes arbitrary.

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The amygdala hijack (emotion overwhelming logic) can be overcome on a long-term scale by shifting someone's mental model of the world through narrative, so that the new vision becomes rational to them once they see it through your framing.

factualhigh valuespeaker onlynovelty 2/4durability 4/4· Lulu Chang Maservi

It's like the amygdala hijack of the prefrontal cortex, but on a much bigger long-term scale where the thing that makes sense once you start to see the world through this new prism that I've convinced you to look at it through, the old thing actually doesn't make sense anymore. And in the new world that you can see that I painted for you, my thing makes sense. You have to join my thing.

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The physics equation Pressure = Force / Surface Area applies to reputation: the same force spread over wider surface area exerts less pressure; one person being attacked can reduce pressure by making it clear 'you're not just attacking me, you're attacking all of us,' thereby expanding the surface area and diffusing the pressure.

causalhigh valuespeaker onlynovelty 2/4durability 3/4· Lulu Chang Maservi

Pressure equals force divided by surface area... the same amount of force if you spread it over a wide surface area doesn't exert a lot of pressure... if the surface area contracts then the same amount of force creates a lot of pressure... if you're trying to relieve pressure, you don't get to change how much force is coming at you. But you can change the surface area.

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The correct approach to determining what narrative to tell is not 'here's what I want to say' but rather finding the overlap in a Venn diagram between what you care about and what your audience cares about, then telling the story that lives in the center of that overlap as a gateway drug to pull them into your full circle of interests.

normativehigh valuespeaker onlynovelty 2/4durability 3/4· Lulu Chang Maservi

The wrong way is here's what I want to say. Here it is... The real story to tell is what's in the center of that ven diagram. Don't tell the story that's in your circle because it's hard to get other people to care. Don't tell the story that's in the other person's circle because you don't get anything out of it... Tell the story that's in the ven diagram.

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The hook is the most overlooked part of communication in terms of its importance; people spend too much time thinking about where to say something (distribution channel, medium) and not enough about what makes it interesting enough that people tell others about it without being asked.

normativehigh valuespeaker onlynovelty 2/4durability 3/4· Lulu Chang Maservi

The hook is probably the most overlooked part, I would say, in order of how much it matters. It's the hook, then how you tell your story, and then where you tell it. Most people get this reversed where they spend an inordinate amount of time thinking about where can I go talk?

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The way to break the cycle of mediocre corporate communication is for leaders to do something original and courageous that works, which then allows copers to improve incrementally; leaders who do A+ things set a new baseline for others to aspire to, while non-leaders get proportionally worse results even when copying.

causalhigh valuespeaker onlynovelty 2/4durability 3/4· Lulu Chang Maservi

The way to break the cycle is every once in a while somebody just does something totally different and it works... the leaders will do something more interesting and then the copers will try to do something similar to that and the leader will get the A+ result and the copers will get the C plus result.

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Government and corporate communications are attacks on educated citizens because officials communicate in one dense page what should be 2-3 sentences max, forcing readers to spend hours deciphering jargon, which represents lost productivity summed across all citizens who must read this incomprehensible communication.

normativehigh valuespeaker onlynovelty 2/4durability 3/4· Lulu Chang Maservi

Government communications... you have to spend your time deciphering it. It's almost like a race to see how much we can say without saying anything... If you spend an extra couple hours and then that adds up over the course of a lifetime, that is that much productivity added together from everyone.

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A CEO whose job is to consider and weigh different interests (legal, reputational, financial) should make decisions optimized for the net best outcome for the company; when this fails, it's because the CEO has let lawyers' interest (minimize legal liability) become supreme over other interests, abdicating the CEO's responsibility to weigh all interests.

normativehigh valuespeaker onlynovelty 2/4durability 3/4· Lulu Chang Maservi

The CEO's job... is to consider different interests and weigh them against each other to reach the net optimal outcome... When this goes wrong... everybody gets scared of the lawyers and the CEO follows exactly what the lawyers say and dismisses every other interest. They are not doing their job as the CEO.

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To counter a false story with facts, you must fight story with story; finding better stories under the statistics is more powerful than citing the statistics themselves, especially if the opponent is lying and there's a story to tell about that deception.

normativehigh valuespeaker onlynovelty 2/4durability 3/4· Lulu Chang Maservi

If someone is fighting you with stories, you have to fight with stories. Under the statistics will be more powerful stories... If your opponent is actually lying in their skull duggery, maybe there's a story about that.

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In response to attacks, the first decision is whether it actually matters by assessing (1) is it reaching people who matter and (2) is it something material, meaning it could cause actual damage; if both are no, ignore it and go for a walk; only if both are yes should you respond immediately and aggressively.

normativehigh valuespeaker onlynovelty 2/4durability 3/4· Lulu Chang Maservi

The first thing is does it actually matter? Cuz like don't waste your one wild and precious life responding to every single thing... Number one, is it reaching people that matter?... Or let's say that you are a Republican politician and your audience is like right-wing Americans and AOC attacks you. Great. Congratulations.

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A hit piece (clear attack) is manageable, but the 'uncanny valley' of criticism is worse—when someone reports facts that aren't aggressive or hostile but make you look horrible, you can't defend because you're not being attacked, just factually exposed; this is harder to counter than explicit opposition.

normativehigh valuespeaker onlynovelty 2/4durability 3/4· Lulu Chang Maservi

There's a kind of horseshoe where a great piece fine, a hit piece, fine... What you don't want is the uncanny valley where it's not a hit piece, but it has information about you that while it doesn't sound aggressive... makes you look horrible... That's the worst way of looking bad.

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For startups to recruit talent to do something that appears impossible (like 'we'll beat Google'), picking a fight or having a clear foil to oppose (a regulation, a market dynamic, an entrenched competitor) gives people something to believe in and fight for; without a cause and foil, recruiting believers is nearly impossible.

causalhigh valuespeaker onlynovelty 2/4durability 3/4· Lulu Chang Maservi

If you are starting from basically nothing and you need to gather steam... it's good to have something to fight for. You need to have a cause. And often with a cause, you need to have a foil... there's something you want to see in the world, but there's something that you want to change.

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When choosing mediums, match the audience, not the distribution size; if you're recruiting AI researchers, they're not reading NPR—they're reading Simon Williamson's newsletter, Less Wrong, and specific AI substacks; distribution is a vector (magnitude and direction) and you need direction fit, not magnitude alone.

normativehigh valuespeaker onlynovelty 2/4durability 3/4· Lulu Chang Maservi

If you're trying to recruit researchers... why are you spending all this time on NPR?... the researchers are probably reading like the Simon Williamson newsletter... They're reading the less wrong... This is... a totally different ecosystem that you actually haven't penetrated whatsoever.

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The most effective communicator is the person leading the enterprise, not a hired communicator or PR professional, because the founder/leader has conviction, skin in the game, and can articulate vision in first-person in ways that hired intermediaries cannot replicate.

normativehigh valuespeaker onlynovelty 2/4durability 3/4· Lulu Chang Maservi

the most effective person to speak is the person who's leading the enterprise... The best communicating companies are doing is having the cult leader having the leader of the enterprise speak directly about what their vision is.

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Effective argument-resolution depends on first establishing agreement on at least something trivial to prove that you and the other person CAN see things the same way, which breaks down the default assumption of fundamental disagreement.

normativehigh valuespeaker onlynovelty 2/4durability 3/4· Lulu Chang Maservi

the better way to argue... is he'll have somebody who totally disagree with with him on a bunch of things, and he'll always make sure to start with agreeing with them on something, even if it's trivial. I agree with you that that thing was totally insane. And now we can have a productive conversation because we've established that it's even possible for you and me to see things the same way

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Sheltered leaders (surrounded by yes-men) become intellectually brittle and freeze when confronted with criticism in public, because they have never been forced to defend positions in a safe environment; this brittleness then shows publicly and undermines their credibility.

causalhigh valuespeaker onlynovelty 2/4durability 3/4· Lulu Chang Maservi

if you don't even allow people close to you to disagree and spar with you, and if you penalize people who speak up against you, then what you're doing is you're making yourself incredibly intellectually brittle... that unpreparedness e shows either in live interviews. Sometimes you see people in live interviews just like lock up and they freeze.

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When lawyers advise 'Don't apologize' to minimize legal liability, they are typically wrong because human remorse and empathy in response to mistakes do not create legal liability in the real world, and avoiding apology costs more in reputational damage than it saves in legal risk.

normativehigh valuespeaker onlynovelty 2/4durability 3/4· Lulu Chang Maservi

sometimes when a company screws up, a lot of times lawyers will say, 'Don't apologize.' Because if you're apologizing, you're admitting fault... In practice, I've never seen someone lose a case because the CEO expressed human remorse and empathy and that was the thing that made them lose in the courtroom.

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When a founder/leader speaks on behalf of technology that is unverifiable (highly classified, proprietary, or esoteric), people cannot independently verify claims and must use the founder's credibility as a proxy to assess trustworthiness; the halo effect becomes the primary trust signal.

causalhigh valuespeaker onlynovelty 2/4durability 3/4· Lulu Chang Maservi

If you're building a technology that is so mindblowing and advanced and esoteric and confidential, you can't tell people, well, just go verify that it works... They can't verify what you're doing with their data... They just have to use as proxies other things whether they trust or not. So they'll look at you, the human, as the mascot of the company and use you as a proxy.

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Talented people will leave secure positions to join risky ventures when they believe in the founder because they're responding to a cognitive circuit deeper than rational risk-benefit analysis—an amygdala hijack of the prefrontal cortex where emotion overrides reason.

causalhigh valuespeaker onlynovelty 2/4durability 3/4· Unknown Speaker (host)

It's irrational, but there's something like super rational, like something that supersedes rationality that actually takes another circuit in their brain... the amygdala hijack of the prefrontal cortex, but on a much bigger long-term scale where the thing that makes sense once you start to see the world through this new prism that I've convinced you to look at it through, the old thing actually doesn't make sense anymore.

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A material attack is one that threatens people who matter to you—like an accusation that affects future recruitment, customer trust, or partnership—and unlike a trivial personal jab, material damage must be addressed immediately and aggressively, because letting reputational wounds fester is like letting a broken nose heal crooked, requiring a much more painful fix later.

normativehigh valuespeaker onlynovelty 1/4durability 3/4· Lulu Chang Maservi

If it's a material reputational damage, you can either handle it in that moment and break the nose back and just fix it then and there while things are already bad or you can kind of let it fester and then decide that you're not happy with it... you're stuck with do I have a crooked nose forever or do I have to break it from scratch?

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When facing asymmetric power (like a small company vs. the New York Times), being the underdog is actually an advantage; people naturally sympathize with underdogs and are skeptical of bullies and big mainstream institutions, so if you're clearly being punched down on, you can use that to rally your base by reframing an attack on you as an attack on them.

causalhigh valuespeaker onlynovelty 1/4durability 3/4· Lulu Chang Maservi

God smiles on underdogs... People are naturally very skeptical of big mainstream corporate media right now... if you're in the receiving position of that, I think you can actually use that... there's a a certain set of people you need to win over who are aligned with you... and an attack on you is an attack on them.

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Donald Trump is an effective communicator because he uses a third-grade vocabulary level (strong, great, bad, good) that everyone understands; a seven-year-old or immigrant could grasp his message; meanwhile most speeches fail because they use abstract language that obscures meaning.

factualhigh valuespeaker onlynovelty 1/4durability 3/4· Lulu Chang Maservi

He speaks at like a third grade vocabulary level... he doesn't use words that nobody can understand... he uses words where everybody knows what the words mean. Strong, great, bad, good. Everybody knows what these mean. I could read my seven-year-old a Trump speech and they could kind of grasp what's going on.

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Both individual employees and founders should think of themselves as products being sold to consumers; depending on context (dating, job seeking, promotion seeking, fundraising), the consumer is different, but the principle is the same—you need to know your audience and what they need to believe about you to give you what you want.

normativehigh valuespeaker onlynovelty 1/4durability 3/4· Lulu Chang Maservi

You are a product that you are selling to a certain consumer. I love that. So that's the macro. What about the micro... Everyone can and everyone should be strategic about the image of themselves that they're presenting to the world and the product that is themselves that they're selling to any given market.

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Success means open-sourcing the idea that you can control your destiny through communication; people don't need to hire consultants or communication agencies—they can bend reality to their favor by learning to communicate to people who matter in ways that strike their heart and mind.

normativehigh valuespeaker onlynovelty 1/4durability 3/4· Lulu Chang Maservi

Success for me is to open source a lot of what we're talking about here. Specifically, the idea that you can control your destiny... You can bend it to your favor if you're able to communicate to people who matter... and open sourcing this means that people understand that they can just go and do this. They don't need to hire me.

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Most presentations and emails lack any clear goal; they're just brain dumps; the vast majority fail to achieve the goal of communicating something specific in the time allotted because the sender didn't start by being clear on the goal.

factualhigh valuespeaker onlynovelty 1/4durability 3/4· Lulu Chang Maservi

The vast vast majority of presentations or emails that are sent are more like I need to check the box... there isn't a clear view of this thing that has taken up 5 seconds of someone's time had a goal and did you achieve that goal or not?

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A VP of Comms aspiring to be CEO should identify the three things the decision-makers need to believe (executive presence, company vision, employee leadership) and then be intentional about presenting proof points of each through messages, mediums, and partnerships with other executives.

normativehigh valuespeaker onlynovelty 1/4durability 3/4· Lulu Chang Maservi

Think about the product yourself that you are portraying... The people who will decide that are current CEO via the succession plan, the board... you want them to believe that you have executive presence, that you have a vision for the company, and that employees love you... how do you convey that to them?

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Effective hooks typically leverage one of four mechanisms: humor, curiosity, strong emotion (wow, outrage, shock, surprise), or promise of new perspective on an already-followed topic—the choice depends on the target audience.

factualhigh valuespeaker onlynovelty 1/4durability 3/4· Lulu Chang Maservi

The most common ones that I've just observed online are humor, curiosity, or some strong emotion. It can be a wow emotion. It can be a WTF emotion, or it could be here's a topic that I'm already thinking about, and this is going to give me some new angle on the topic.

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Intent matters in determining response to violation: if you know someone and trust them and they violate once, understanding their intent (accident vs. malice) allows you to either forgive or respond, but the key is knowing the person well enough to model their intent.

normativehigh valuespeaker onlynovelty 1/4durability 3/4· Lulu Chang Maservi

intent depends on trust and if you know the person. So, trusting the person and knowing the person and whatever your view and the model of that person is is one of those things that can override the immediate short-term logic of something.

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Press releases as a communication tool are obsolete; they are a box-checking exercise that may be legally required for public companies but serve no real communication function.

normativehigh valuespeaker onlynovelty 1/4durability 3/4· Unknown Speaker (host)

the press release as a means of communication I think is obsolete by like a decade.

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Investors will offer blank term sheets to founders they believe in (without specifying what company will be built) because they're investing in the person and their conviction, not in a specific business plan.

factualhigh valuespeaker onlynovelty 1/4durability 2/4· Unknown Speaker (host)

there are people now who are thinking about starting a company and people are basically offering them blank term sheets. I don't know what I'm investing in. I'm investing in you. Whatever you do, here's here's some money. I'm sure it'll work out.

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Corporations and governments communicate poorly because when AI is asked to generate communications or PR, it produces the worst possible output despite being excellent at poetry and complex tasks, because the craft of persuasion and truth-telling in communication is fundamentally different from other writing tasks.

factualhigh valuespeaker onlynovelty 1/4durability 2/4· Lulu Chang Maservi

When you ask AI for anything related to comms or PR, it turns into kind of a blabbering idiot. like even the most advanced models... You ask it to do anything related to comms or PR and it'll give you the worst thing you've seen.

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Toby Lütke of Shopify probably single-handedly changed the number of people speaking out in Canada on elections by starting to have an opinion and voice, which made it safe for others to have opinions and voices that counter the norm.

causalhigh valuespeaker onlynovelty 1/4durability 2/4· Lulu Chang Maservi

He probably single-handedly changed the number of people speaking out in Canada on the election because he started having an opinion, having a voice, and that that sort of made it safe for other people to have an opinion, have a voice, and that might go counter to the norm.

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The Rippling vs Deel corporate competition illustrates that when one side accused the other of spying and the accused narrative was 'someone was found in a bathroom trying to flush a phone,' the vivid specific story became the narrative everyone remembered, overshadowing all the quantitative claims about revenue and performance.

factualhigh valuespeaker onlynovelty 1/4durability 2/4· Lulu Chang Maservi

We're seeing a very interesting story play out between Ripling and Deal, which are these two payroll processors, and Deal planting a spy and the spy like running into the bathroom and then try to flush a phone... all of that fades into the noise and people are just picturing like the spy hiding into the bath in the bathroom trying to flash a phone.

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Blake Shaw of Boom Supersonic successfully leveraged fighting against a specific bad regulation (outdated sonic boom restrictions) rather than complaining about 'red tape' in general, showing that specificity and concreteness is what enables people to rally around a cause.

factualhigh valuespeaker onlynovelty 1/4durability 2/4· Lulu Chang Maservi

Blake Shaw runs it. It's the first civilian privately created supersonic plane... he was able to actually help influence getting this legislation overturned... but he wasn't attacking anybody, wasn't being mean to anybody. He just said like pinpointing this is the thing that's holding back speed in America.

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Trump has strong deterrence because his behavior is predictably erratic—people know what to expect from him even if they don't like it; this clarity means his base knows what they're supporting and his detractors have limited room to damage him further because the attacks are already baked in.

factualhigh valuespeaker onlynovelty 1/4durability 2/4· Lulu Chang Maservi

He has very strong deterrence. He behaves very predictably... like his behavior patterns are actually quite predictable... everybody who hates him already hates him. Some cost. It's baked in, but it doesn't continue to hurt him.

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Brian Armstrong of Coinbase handled the SEC crisis effectively by putting his face and words directly to his principles rather than hiding behind spokespeople; this transparency and ownership gave the company credibility and allowed them to prove their values through a costly action.

factualhigh valuespeaker onlynovelty 1/4durability 2/4· Lulu Chang Maservi

Brian is willing to put his face to his words and his words to his principles... he was willing to say it from himself... he could have used his people as a human shield and he didn't. So that made a big difference.

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Palmer Luckey has strong deterrence ('perfect deterrence') because his behavior signals that he will reliably respond to attacks and continue responding, so people have stopped attacking him; this illustrates that deterrence can be signaled and established through consistent behavior.

factualhigh valuespeaker onlynovelty 1/4durability 2/4· Lulu Chang Maservi

Palmer... has basically perfect deterrence which is that if you come after him in some material way he will come after you basically guaranteed 100% of the time... I actually haven't seen it for a very long time. I can't remember the last time that someone took a meaningful shot at Palmer.

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CrowdStrike's crisis response was drafted by lawyers (a 'bar of attorneys') rather than by the human CEO, which is why it sounded corporate and inhuman; when a committee of lawyers writes communication, it loses the personal conviction that would make it land.

factualhigh valuespeaker onlynovelty 1/4durability 2/4· Lulu Chang Maservi

I think lawyers wrote it... I think probably a committee... a bar of attorneys wrote it... It doesn't sound human because it's not human. A committee is not a human being.

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Muting (not blocking) critics and disagreeing voices on social media is preferable to blocking them because muting allows you to see dissent without creating echo chambers, while blocking creates the appearance of censorship and removes learning opportunities.

normativehigh valuespeaker onlynovelty 1/4durability 3/4· Lulu Chang Maservi

I'm a big muter where it's like, okay, if I've said something and you think it sucks, then feel free to dunk on it... I'm a big muter where it's like I just don't want to pollute my feed with your nonsense. Um, and it's different from disagreeing.

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When attacking (on offense), narrow your target to one specific person or issue rather than complaining about broad categories like 'the media' or 'the government,' because broad complaints sound like conspiracy thinking while specific accusations are credible and maximize pressure.

normativehigh valuespeaker onlynovelty 1/4durability 3/4· Lulu Chang Maservi

if you narrow it to say this specific reporter has had a vendetta against my company because their cousin runs a competitor or whatever, that is actually a lot more effective and more credible and you're maximizing the pressure on that person.