The Truth About Human Population Decline | Jennifer D. Sciubba | TED
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With birth rates falling, the worldwide human population is getting older and smaller. According to traditional thinking, this spells a future of labor shortages, bankrupt social security systems and overall economic collapse. Before you panic about the end of life as we know it, political demographer Jennifer D. Sciubba has a thoughtful playbook for managing the new normal – including ideas on the future of work and migration – and a reminder that a resilient future relies on present-day action.
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The speaker argues that global population decline and aging is an inevitable demographic shift requiring proactive adaptation, and that societies choosing resilient planning will thrive while those choosing avoidance or coercion will face systemic collapse and authoritarianism.
- Fertility is falling everywhere and below-replacement in most developed and many developing countries, creating an irreversible structural shift toward older, smaller populations
- The status quo approach of maintaining growth-based economics and pay-as-you-go systems will fail as worker-to-retiree ratios collapse and labor costs spike
- Three possible futures exist: status quo breakdown, fearful authoritarianism, or resilient adaptation through immigration, later working ages, health investment, and sustainable consumption
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South Korea has spent 210 billion dollars over the last 16 years trying to raise fertility and keeps hitting record lows, under one child per woman on average, showing that monetary incentives alone do not reverse fertility decline
“South Korea has spent 210 billion dollars over the last 16 years trying to raise fertility and they keep hitting record lows, under one child per woman on average.”
We are witnessing the most fundamental shift to take place in modern human history: the shift towards pervasive and permanent low fertility, population aging, and eventual depopulation
“We're witnessing the most fundamental shift to take place in modern human history. The shift towards pervasive and permanent low fertility, population aging and eventual depopulation.”
In 1965, Nicolae Ceaușescu took power in Romania and forced fertility increases through invasive measures, causing temporary fertility spike but dire consequences for women and children, many abandoned to orphanages
“In 1965, when Nicolae Ceaușescu took the helm in Romania and he wanted more Romanian babies, he forced it to happen through invasive measures. Fertility temporarily spiked, but not without dire consequences for women and for those children, many of whom were abandoned to orphanages.”
In a resilient world, policies, incentives, and technologies recognize that how we consume is just as important as how many of us consume, allowing environmental healing alongside demographic decline
“Similarly, in a resilient world, we've put in place policies, incentives and technologies that recognize how we consume is just as important as how many of us consume. And the environment is healing.”
In a fearful world, there is less global cooperation as aging, shrinking countries lose the willingness and ability to think about causes outside their borders and fund those initiatives, preventing collective action on pandemics, climate change, and other transboundary issues
“There's less global cooperation as aging, shrinking countries, they lose the willingness and ability to think about causes outside their borders and fund those. We can't come together on pandemics or climate change or other transboundary issues.”
In the status quo world, social security systems go bankrupt and societies lose the gains made in reducing old-age poverty
“Social security systems go bankrupt and we lose the gains we've made in reducing old-age poverty.”
Strategies to move away from informal economies are necessary to reduce the risk of poverty in older ages in countries undergoing rapid demographic aging
“including suites of policies like moving away from informal economies that increase the risk of poverty in older ages.”
By the middle of this century, there will be more people over age 60 than under age 14, representing a radical shift in modern human society
“We're on track for there to be more people over age 60 than under the age of 14 by the middle of this century.”
In the status quo world, societies keep the same economic models that assume infinite population growth and amass more debt to pay for public spending, while relying on pay-as-you-go social safety nets that require more inputs from workers than withdrawals from retirees
“In this status quo world, we keep the same economic models that assume infinite population growth and amass more debt to pay for our public spending. Our social safety nets stay the same, which, those rely on more inputs from workers than withdrawals from retirees. That's what we call a pay-as-you-go system.”
Young and growing populations in high-fertility regions can be a tremendous resource for their national economies if investments in human capital and other policies enable them to reap a demographic dividend, and can also be a resource for the global economy
“Those young and growing populations can be a tremendous resource for their national economies if we have investments in human capital and other policies that can help these countries reap a demographic dividend. And they can be a resource for the global economy too.”
In nearly half of the economies that the OECD tracks, fewer than 10 percent of people over age 65 still work, which is unsustainable in a resilient world where populations must remain productive longer
“in nearly half of economies that the OECD tracks, fewer than 10 percent of people over the age of 65 still work. That is not going to fly in a resilient world.”
Failing to adapt to demographic change and clinging to status quo leads to systems overload and breakdown: higher labor costs cause inflation, which makes having children even more expensive, creating a negative feedback loop
“So what results from failing to adapt and clinging to the status quo? Systems overload and break. We have higher labor costs which lead to inflation and that just makes it even more expensive to have children.”
The way we feel about population aging to a large extent reflects the negative way we feel about our individual aging, and this bias has held us back from creating resilient responses
“I've always thought that the way we feel about population aging to a large extent reflects the really negative way we feel about our individual aging. And that bias has held us back.”
India, despite assuming the role of world's most populous country, has below-replacement fertility and the number of young people entering its workforce has already peaked
“And even India, as it seems to be this bright star, assuming the throne as world's most populous country, has below-replacement fertility. The number of young people entering into India's workforce has already peaked.”
For the population ages 60+ to increase from 15 percent to 30 percent of total, it will take Ireland 92 years, the UK 89 years, Germany 70 years; but it will take India 34 years, Mexico 32 years, Iran 20 years, and Thailand only 19 years—showing that demographic aging is accelerating globally
“for the population ages 60 plus to go from 15 percent of the total to 30 percent, it'll take Ireland 92 years, the United Kingdom 89 years, and Germany 70 years. For that same demographic shift to happen now, it'll take India 34 years, Mexico 32, Iran 20 and Thailand, only 19.”
In a fearful world, immigration becomes more restricted, there is more hatred and division as majority groups fear being replaced by people who don't look like them
“In a fearful world, immigration becomes more restricted. There's more hatred and division as majority groups fear being replaced by people who don't look like them.”
World population is still growing from eight billion today to a peak of probably nine or 10 billion, but growth rate has been falling the entire time since the 1960s when world population more than doubled
“total population is still growing from eight billion today to a peak of probably nine or 10 billion. But when we track total increase, we're looking at the star that seems to be shining brightly, but in actuality has already imploded. And that's because there's a difference between what's happening on the surface -- which is obvious total growth -- and the tectonic forces beneath. Since the 1960s, world population has more than doubled, but the growth rate has been falling the entire time.”
Western Europe is already struggling to keep pay-as-you-go social safety nets afloat because in many countries there are only two workers for every retiree, and this ratio will grow even more top-heavy in the coming years
“Western Europe is already struggling to keep these systems afloat because in many of those countries there are only two workers for every retiree. You can see how top heavy the population's age structure is here and how in the next few years it will grow even more so that way.”
Many aging countries were democracies 20 years ago, but now a quarter of countries with median ages of 35 or higher aren't free, indicating a correlation between population aging and loss of democratic institutions
“Twenty years ago, almost all of our aging countries were democracies. Now, a quarter of them, those with median ages of 35 or higher, aren't free.”
In the status quo world, the world's most powerful countries continue to increase military spending and project power beyond borders even as national budgets strain and the recruiting pool for soldiers shrinks, affecting Russia, China, and possibly the United States
“In a status quo world, the world's most powerful countries continue to increase military spending and try to project power beyond their borders, even as their national budgets strain and the recruiting pool for soldiers shrinks. Hello, Russia, China, and maybe even the United States.”
There are currently so many people between ages 65 and 74 that together they would constitute the third most-populous country in the world, representing a vast untapped resource in most places currently but a well-utilized one in the resilient world
“You know, there are so many people on the planet right now just between the ages of 65 and 74, that altogether they'd be the third most-populous country in the world. There's far more of them than there are global migrants, which we don't hear about, right? And there'll be 800 million of them by the middle of this century. They're a vast untapped resource in most places in the world right now, but a well-utilized one in a resilient world and to mutual benefit.”
The median age of Japan, Italy, and Germany was 40 years old just 20 years ago; today, Thailand, Kuwait, and Cuba have reached the same median age, with Chile, Iran, and Vietnam close behind, showing rapid aging acceleration
“Again, just 20 years ago, if we'd lined up everyone in Japan or Italy or Germany from the youngest person to the oldest and we ask that person in the middle their age, they would have been 40 years old. Today, the populations of Thailand, Kuwait and Cuba are just as old, with Chile, Iran and Vietnam close behind.”
Fertility is down everywhere, just at different rates in different places; if fertility stays the same as it is today, China's population will be less than half of its current size by the end of this century—a loss of 800 million people
“Fertility is down everywhere, just at different rates in different places. If fertility stays the same as it is today, just hold still, by the end of this century, China's population will be less than half of its current size. It's a loss of 800 million people.”
South Korea's population will decline by 63 percent, Poland's and Japan's by half, Italy's and Thailand's by 44 percent, and Eastern Europe by 40 percent if current fertility rates hold steady
“South Korea's will be down by 63 percent, Poland's and Japan's by half, Italy's and Thailand's by 44 percent, Eastern Europe by 40 percent.”
In the Democratic Republic of the Congo, Ethiopia, Nigeria, and Tanzania, fertility is still high enough that each generation is twice the size of the one before it, representing a demographic resource if investments in human capital are made
“In the Democratic Republic of the Congo, Ethiopia, Nigeria, Tanzania, fertility is still high enough that each generation is twice the size of the one before it.”
The US and Canada stand out as still growing despite below-replacement fertility in both, with Canada achieving record population growth last year of which 96 percent was due to immigration
“And the US and Canada, they stand out as still growing despite below replacement fertility in both. And in fact, Canada had record population growth last year, 96 percent of which was due to immigration.”
In a resilient world, societies have rethought what work looks like at older ages and strategically leverage technology to maximize productivity, allowing people to work longer because they're healthier
“But in a resilient world, we've rethought what work looks like at older ages, and we strategically leverage technology to maximize our productivity. And we can work longer because we're healthier.”
Societies closer to the start of demographic transition need to take advantage of the time to plan and institute sustainable systems before their demographic change accelerates, emphasizing the urgency for countries like Mexico, Iran, and Thailand
“those societies closer to the start of this demographic transition take advantage of the time to plan and institute sustainable systems in the face of their demographic change. This is important because... those countries have to act, including suites of policies like moving away from informal economies that increase the risk of poverty in older ages.”
Like our own individual aging, population aging is inevitable, so the question is not whether it will happen but what we will do about it—our actions as individuals and as societies will determine which of three possible worlds becomes reality
“But just as with our own aging, this shift is inevitable. So what are we going to do about it? As individuals, we know that our actions now set us up to live longer, healthier, more financially secure lives. Our society's actions set us up for one of these three worlds to become our reality.”
In a resilient world, investing in health is a much better use of time and resources than trying to dictate population size, as health investments enable longer productive lives and better aging
“In a resilient world, we finally realize that investing in health is a much better use of time and resources than trying to dictate population size.”
Our demography is our destiny, but how we react to that demography is not preordained, suggesting societies have agency to choose between possible futures despite structural demographic constraints
“Our demography is our destiny, yes, but how we react to that demography is not preordained.”
In a resilient world, societies compete to attract talent from across the globe and set aside nationalist tendencies in recognition that a shrinking world is inevitable but some places face it sooner than others
“In a resilient world, we compete to attract talent from across the globe and set aside our nationalist tendencies. A shrinking world is in our future, but obviously some places are much closer than others.”
In a fearful world, the ability to choose how many children to have and when to have them gets taken away through coercive measures, which is easier to implement in less democratic settings
“In a fearful world, the ability to choose how many children to have and when to have them gets taken away. Something that's easier in less democratic settings.”
We should run from the fearful world and get our heads out of the sand, imagining instead a much better, more resilient world based on thoughtful planning for older, smaller populations
“We should run from a fearful world and get our heads out of the sand. And we should be able to imagine a much better, more resilient world.”
There are obvious trade-offs to opening borders to immigration, but in a resilient world, this is necessary and no one said the required adaptations would be easy
“Theirs aren't the only models for immigration and there are obvious trade-offs to opening your borders. But no one said this would be easy.”
We should reimagine a grayer, smaller world as a beautiful one, making the resilient world our collective goal
“Let's make it a resilient world and reimagine a grayer, smaller world as a beautiful one.”
Light from faraway stars takes so long to reach Earth that by the time we see them, they may no longer exist, creating a metaphor for populations that appear to be growing but are structurally already shrinking
“Astronomers tell us that when we look to the night sky, we're actually looking back in time. Light from those faraway stars takes so long to reach our eyes here on Earth, that by the time we wish upon a particular star, it may no longer even exist. I'm here to tell you the population of Earth is a lot like those stars.”