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DEBUNKING 6 MOST COMMON COFFEE MYTHS: Feat. Chemist Dr. Samo Smrke


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TIME CUES

0:00- Introduction 0:52- 1) Tamping too Hard? 2:21- 2) Fresh is Best? 4:52- 3) Brew with Boiling? 7:35- 4) High EY= Less Acidity? 12:48- 5) No Channeling is Possible? 17:22- 6) 9 Bar is Ideal? 20:50- TLDW

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Common espresso-making myths—about tamping pressure, coffee freshness, brew temperature, extraction levels, channeling, and bar pressure—are either false or more nuanced than widely believed; the actual variables that matter for quality espresso are puck preparation, grind size, and ratio rather than pressure or temperature within normal ranges.

  • Hand tamping cannot compress the puck beyond what 9 bars of machine pressure achieves, so harder tamping does not slow shots
  • Very fresh coffee tastes worse due to high methantile concentration; optimal flavor emerges days after roast
  • Extraction yield and acidity increase together even at high extraction; perceived loss of acidity is actually bitter compounds overwhelming acid on the palate

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Temperature and pressure are not the primary variables requiring adjustment when dialing in espresso; more importantly, baristas should focus on puck preparation, grind size, and ratio as the main levers for achieving desired extraction.

normativehigh valueestablishednovelty 2/4durability 4/4· Lance (host)

So when we're looking at all the variables of extraction, pressures included, times included, temperatures included, but we can kind of push those aside as maybe static things that we don't really need to worry about as much to focus on what does matter, which is, well, first off, puck preparation, but very important, as we can tell through a lot of these answers. But we need to look at, start with coarse, go finer, we need to look at the ratio, we need to look at grind size, right?

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Methanethiol (methyl mercaptan) is the most volatile compound in fresh coffee and is also the compound added to natural gas to make gas leaks detectable by smell.

factualhigh valueestablishednovelty 3/4durability 4/4· Guest Espresso Scientist

One of the compounds in coffee, the aroma compound called metan tile, is the most volatile compound in coffee, and it has a very unpleasant smell. So typically, metan tile is the compound that is added to natural gas for us to be able to smell it

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What people perceive as burning from hot water is actually two distinct effects: (1) higher temperatures extract bitter compounds faster because bitter compounds are hard to extract and high temperature accelerates extraction, and (2) high-temperature water causes volatile compounds to evaporate during brewing, stripping delicate aromatic notes.

causalhigh valueestablishednovelty 2/4durability 4/4· Coffee chemist (guest expert)

One is the temperature is helping you extract compounds, so the bitter compounds are not volatile; they are usually quite hard to extract. That's why extracting at a higher temperature, you'll get more bitterness because you're extracting the bitter compounds better. But the volatility works the other way around, so if you have high-temperature water, you get more evaporation of volatile compounds during the brewing process, so you might be losing some of the delicate notes from the coffee.

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When you tamp very hard and hold the tamper at an angle (not level), you are likely to create uneven tamping, which changes shot time through increased channeling—not because the pressure itself differs, but because the puck density becomes uneven.

causalhigh valueestablishednovelty 2/4durability 3/4· Lance (host)

There is a big change whenever you tamp really hard because I'm sure a ton of you have anecdotal evidence of a change occurring when you tamp harder. My assumption is that if you tamp really hard and you're up like this, you're likely going to be more uneven in your tamping, which can absolutely change your shot time due to the difference in channeling.

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The common belief that the freshest coffee is the best is false; very fresh coffee contains high concentrations of carbon dioxide and volatile compounds (especially methantile, an unpleasant gaseous aroma compound similar to natural gas), which degrade over days, making the coffee more palatable and balanced after a few days off roast.

factualhigh valuecontestednovelty 3/4durability 3/4· Coffee chemist (guest expert)

It's not always the best. Okay, it depends on your preference. If you like very gassy shots, then perhaps it's the best for you. But most people will not describe fresh coffee as the best coffee because fresh coffee contains a lot of carbon dioxide, and when coffee has a lot of carbon dioxide, the blooming is very strong.

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The myth that over-extraction causes loss of acidity is false; chemically, acids are among the first compounds extracted (approximately 90% of acids extracted at typical 20% extraction yield), and over-extraction still increases acid concentration in the brew because acids remain in the liquid once extracted.

factualhigh valueestablishednovelty 2/4durability 4/4· Coffee chemist (guest expert)

From a chemical point of view, when we are extracting coffee, we are extracting material compounds from coffee. We have a certain curve as we go through our brew. We go more and more and extract further and further until we extract everything. Typically, when we are at our 20% extraction yield, which is the typical extraction yield for most average brews, we are extracting maybe 90% of all the acids. Maybe we are at 80% caffeine and like 70% of the bitter compounds. But if we go higher than this, if we over-extract the coffee, we will not lose the acids because they are already in the brew.

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The coffee puck does not follow linear pressure-flow relationships (Darcy's Law does not apply) because the puck is compressible; as pressure increases, the puck compresses further, increasing water resistance, which can result in no net change in extraction yield between lower and higher pressures.

causalhigh valueestablishednovelty 2/4durability 4/4· Coffee chemist (guest expert)

the reason behind this is that the coffee puck does not behave according to a linear flow-pressure relation. So the Darcy's law does not apply for the coffee puck, and this we explain with the fact that the coffee puck is slightly compressible.

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There is no way to tamp too hard because espresso extraction uses nine bars of pressure, which applies 200-250 kg of force on the coffee puck—far more than the 15-25 kg a human can generate by hand—so manual tamping cannot exceed the compression already achieved by the machine.

causalhigh valuecontestednovelty 2/4durability 4/4· Coffee chemist (guest expert)

No, there's no way to tamp too hard. The reason behind it is that when we extract espresso, we usually use nine bars of pressure, and this nine bars of pressure acts as a force on the top of the puck. This force is around 20 to 250 kg, typically on press. It's way more than you can tamp.

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Channeling (concentrated water flow through isolated regions of the coffee puck) has been modeled theoretically and studied, but has never been directly observed in real-time within the puck itself; its actual importance to overall extraction is unknown.

factualhigh valuecontestednovelty 3/4durability 3/4· Guest Espresso Scientist

There are studies that did some tests to try to prove channeling. There are modeling studies that try to prove channeling, but nobody actually ever saw channeling in real life happening, right? So we kind of know that it happens from the fact that you see sometimes coffee flowing out at a certain point, yeah, from the open porta-filter or from the top; you see holes. But to what degree is happening within the puck or how important it is to overall extraction, we don't really know.

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Brewing with boiling water (100°C) or water that is too hot does not burn the coffee in the true sense; actual burning requires temperatures of 180–200°C to create smoky, ashy notes, which brew water cannot reach.

factualhigh valueestablishednovelty 1/4durability 4/4· Coffee chemist (guest expert)

I would say not because burning it means there's like a really high temperature involved to create a burning flavor, like smoky, ashy notes, and flavors like this. You need way higher temperature than your brewing water can be. Okay, so you're looking at 180 to 200 degrees Celsius, where you could start burning something, but with the brewing water temperature, you are not burning it.

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The widespread belief among home baristas that a naked portafilter (without a spout) is the primary diagnostic tool for puck preparation issues is a common myth; the presence or absence of visible channeling or squirting does not definitively indicate whether channeling is occurring within the puck or how significant it is to overall extraction.

factualhigh valuecontestednovelty 2/4durability 3/4· Coffee chemist (guest expert)

that's a kind of a controversial topic, the channeling subject because there are studies that did some tests to try to prove channeling. There are modeling studies that try to prove channeling, but nobody actually ever saw channeling in real life happening, right? So we kind of know that it happens from the fact that you see sometimes coffee flowing out at a certain point, yeah, from the open porta-filter or from the top; you see holes. But to what degree is happening within the puck or how important it is to overall extraction, we don't really know.

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When using on-demand grinders (which start from zero RPM and ramp up), the first portion of ground coffee is ground at lower speeds than later portions, resulting in a bimodal particle size distribution where the first half of the dose may be noticeably coarser than the second half.

factualhigh valuespeaker onlynovelty 2/4durability 4/4· Coffee chemist (guest expert)

when you do on-demand grinding, the burrs start from zero speed, right? So the first part of coffee that goes out is ground at zero RPM or with lower RPM, and then the rest is once the grinder picks up. So the particle size distribution might be different if you split the coffee dose into two. The first 10 grams might be different than the last 10 grams because RPM dictates largely the grind size, not as much the distribution.

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Within a typical operating range of 6–11 bars, depending on the coffee, there is often no drastic difference in extraction; a sensory study confirmed that one coffee could be nearly indistinguishably extracted at both 6 bars and 9 bars, though this finding has not been generalized across multiple coffees.

factualhigh valuecontestednovelty 1/4durability 3/4· Coffee chemist (guest expert)

We had a study once about this, and it was confirmed by the sensory panel, but it was studied on one coffee, so I cannot generalize this on all coffees, but there are situations where this happens.

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Whether higher extraction (beyond 20%) yields better-tasting espresso depends entirely on personal bitterness tolerance: if you can tolerate increased bitterness, you gain more body and overall intensity; if you cannot, you will dislike the flavor.

normativehigh valuespeaker onlynovelty 1/4durability 3/4· Guest Espresso Scientist

I think this depends on personal preferences; sure, yeah, because if you can tolerate the increased bitterness, then yes, because you get better body, more overall intensity. If you don't tolerate the increased bitterness, then probably not.

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Baristas often appear to tamp with excessive force by rising onto their tiptoes or adopting an unstable stance, sacrificing form and consistency for the appearance of pressure, even though the additional force provides minimal extraction benefit.

factualhigh valuespeaker onlynovelty 1/4durability 3/4· Host/Lance

there's no tamping too hard; you tamp away. Just don't sacrifice form for pressure. Don't show off, you know, no need to show off; don't get on your tippy toes; you just need to compress till that table presses back at you.

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For washed coffees prepared traditionally, fruity and floral acids are most dominant when the coffee is slightly under-extracted; however, modern coffee processing techniques introduce new flavor compounds that may be less extractable, so some modern coffees require higher extraction yields to achieve fruity or floral notes.

factualhigh valuespeaker onlynovelty 2/4durability 3/4· Coffee chemist (guest expert)

If we go to washed coffees, as it's traditional, I think they are dominant when they're slightly under-extracted. But now, when we have so many new processes, new flavors generated that they were not present in a traditional washed coffee, we still see some other effects that are happening. So, these compounds are maybe less extractable, behave differently, and you can have compounds which are slowly extractable. So, in some cases, high extraction yields might be preferred because of this.

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The rate of methanethiol degradation varies depending on the roast profile because different roast profiles generate different starting concentrations of methanethiol and result in different coffee porosity, which affects how quickly the compound escapes the bean.

causalhigh valuespeaker onlynovelty 2/4durability 3/4· Coffee scientist / guest expert

Does it escape at different rates depending on the development or the roast profile? Yes, of course it does. It's generated during the roasting process, so if we have different roast profiles, we have different starting points of methanethiol, and then we have also different rates of degradation based on how porous the coffee is.

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Approximately 30% more bitter compounds are present in over-extracted coffee compared to normally extracted coffee.

factualhigh valuespeaker onlynovelty 1/4durability 2/4· Guest Espresso Scientist

it's a possibility because you have roughly 30% more of the bitter compounds, something like this in the range of 30%, yeah, like a rough value.

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Coffee is a natural material and therefore cannot be expected to achieve perfect homogeneity in the puck, unlike industrial materials that can be engineered for uniformity.

factualestablishednovelty 0/4durability 4/4· Coffee chemist (guest expert)

it's a natural material, so you can't expect it to be perfectly homogeneous.

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Channeling is characterized by localized regions of rapid water flow through the puck, evidenced by visible spray or bald spots (areas with no crema) in the output of a naked portafilter.

definitionestablishednovelty 0/4durability 4/4· Guest Espresso Scientist

you see sometimes coffee flowing out at a certain point, yeah, from the open porta-filter or from the top; you see holes.

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Measuring and diagnosing channeling chemically is very difficult; the guest has been asked to develop such a method but has not yet found a reliable approach, though they are actively working on it.

factualspeaker onlynovelty 0/4durability 1/4· Coffee chemist (guest expert)

I've been asked this many times, can you make us a measurement to diagnose channeling with a chemical method, and it's very hard, and I've not found one yet, but we're working on it.