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How Psilocybin Can Rewire Our Brain, Its Therapeutic Benefits & Its Risks


What this covers

In this episode, I discuss what psilocybin is (chemically) and how it works at the cellular and neural circuit level to trigger neuroplasticity, which is our brain’s ability to rewire itself in ways that lead to long-lasting shifts in our emotional, cognitive and behavioral patterns and abilities. I discuss the emerging clinical trial evidence for the use of psilocybin in the treatment of depression, addictions and other psychiatric challenges. I explain the typical duration and phases of a psilocybin journey, the different categories of dosages often used and I explain the importance of set, setting and support when using psychedelics. I explain which groups of people place themselves at great risk by taking psilocybin as well as groups that could benefit, and I highlight the rapidly changing legal and medical landscape around psilocybin. This episode is a thorough exploration of psilocybin from the scientific and clinical literature perspective and ought to be of interest to anyone curious about psilocybin, mental health, neuroplasticity and/or psychedelics more generally.

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Articles The neural basis of psychedelic action: https://go.nature.com/3VInMlE The effects of psilocybin and MDMA on between-network resting state functional connectivity in healthy volunteers: https://bit.ly/3VW8iL7 Increased low-frequency brain responses to music after psilocybin therapy for depression: https://bit.ly/3LKj6XK Quality of Acute Psychedelic Experience Predicts Therapeutic Efficacy of Psilocybin for Treatment-Resistant Depression: https://bit.ly/42c7y6x Brief structured respiration practices enhance mood and reduce physiological arousal: https://bit.ly/3wEvGRf Therapeutic use of psilocybin: Practical considerations for dosing and administration: https://bit.ly/3HPHLZM Psilocybin induces rapid and persistent growth of dendritic spines in frontal cortex in vivo: https://bit.ly/3HQ8J3z Psychedelics and Neuroplasticity: A Systematic Review Unraveling the Biological Underpinnings of Psychedelics: https://bit.ly/44Gpwjx Single-Dose Psilocybin for a Treatment-Resistant Episode of Major Depression: https://bit.ly/3pjvu9N Effects of Psilocybin-Assisted Therapy on Major Depressive Disorder: https://bit.ly/3sFSGMM The costs and benefits of psychedelics on cognition and mood: https://bit.ly/3NNyEwI

Other Resources The Physiological Sigh: https://youtu.be/rBdhqBGqiMc Dr. Matthew Johnson: Psychedelic Medicine: https://hubermanlab.com/dr-matthew-johnson-psychedelic-medicine

Timestamps 00:00:00 Psilocybin, Legal Considerations 00:08:32 Sponsors: Eight Sleep, ROKA, HVMN 00:12:00 Psilocybin Becomes Psilocin in the Gut, Serotonin 00:17:00 The Serotonin 2A Receptor, Therapeutic Outcomes SSRIs vs. Psilocybin 00:21:40 Serotonin Receptor Expression; Visual Hallucinations & Eyes Closed 00:27:21 Safety & Cautions for Specific Patient Populations 00:29:13 Sponsor: AG1 (Athletic Greens) 00:30:28 Psilocybin, “Magic Mushrooms” Dosing, Micro-Dosing, “Heroic Doses” 00:36:21 Psychedelic Journey: Set, Setting & Support 00:43:43 Music & the Psilocybin Journey; Duration of Effects 00:48:58 Psilocybin & the Brain: Subjective Experiences, Perception 00:58:36 Sponsor: LMNT 00:59:48 Brain Networks & Therapeutic Outcomes 01:05:23 Creativity; Music, Emotionality & Psychedelic Journeys 01:12:39 Depression & Psychedelics as Neuroplasticity “Wedge” 01:16:53 Positive Psychedelic Journeys, Unity, “Oceanic Boundlessness” 01:25:23 “Bad Trips”, Anxiety & Physiological Sighs 01:32:57 Therapeutic Use of Psilocybin 01:36:11 Neuroplasticity, Structural Brain Changes & Psilocybin 01:48:08 Psychedelics: Therapeutic Breakthroughs & Depression 01:56:37 Combining Psilocybin Therapy & Talk Therapy, Antidepressant Effects 02:03:11 Psilocybin Experience & Mental Health 02:06:42 Zero-Cost Support, YouTube Feedback, Spotify & Apple Reviews, Sponsors, Momentous, Neural Network Newsletter, Social Media

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Sharpest takeaway

Psilocybin works by selectively activating serotonin 2A receptors to increase brain connectivity and induce adaptive neuroplasticity, with 25-30mg doses in proper therapeutic settings producing substantial relief from treatment-resistant depression comparable to or exceeding traditional antidepressants when combined with psychological support.

  • Psilocybin's therapeutic effects depend on serotonin 2A receptor selectivity, not general serotonin elevation like SSRIs, enabling specific brain rewiring through increased lateral communication and reduced modularity
  • Clinical trial data shows 60-75% of treatment-resistant depression patients receiving two 25mg psilocybin sessions experience substantial relief with effect sizes 2.5-4 times greater than SSRIs or psychotherapy alone
  • Therapeutic outcomes require proper 'set and setting' including eye masks, trained guides, appropriate music, and management of peak anxiety through breathing techniques—the journey initiates neuroplasticity but post-session integration determines adaptive vs maladaptive rewiring

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Psilocybin is essentially serotonin in that its main effect is to mimic serotonin, but it does so in a very specific way by activating a subset of serotonin receptors in a very strong fashion, specifically the serotonin 2A receptor, leading to neuroplasticity at the level of neural circuits that serve memory and perception.

factualhigh valueestablishednovelty 2/4durability 4/4· Andrew Huberman

psilocybin basically is serotonin...psilocybin main effect is to mimic serotonin. But it does it in a very specific way because it activates a subset of serotonin receptors in a very strong fashion leading to neuroplasticity at the level of the neural circuits

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The concentration of psilocybin in different strains of magic mushrooms varies tremendously, ranging anywhere from 0.5% to 2% of dry weight, meaning that someone taking the same gram amount of mushrooms from different batches could be ingesting anywhere from 5mg to 20mg of psilocybin depending on strain and batch variability.

factualhigh valueestablishednovelty 2/4durability 4/4· Andrew Huberman

the concentration of psilocybin in different strains of mushrooms and in different batches, and depending on the age of those mushrooms, and how they've been stored, et cetera, can vary tremendously from batch to batch...The range is pretty broad. It's anywhere from 1/2% all the way up to 2%

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Trained guides can use real-time breathing techniques, specifically the physiological sigh, to help people under the influence of psilocybin reduce anxiety during the peak phase, preventing potential bad trips while allowing continued therapeutic benefit, with Dr. Matthew Johnson's laboratory incorporating this technique into psychedelic protocols.

factualhigh valueestablishednovelty 3/4durability 2/4· Andrew Huberman

Dr. Matthew Johnson's laboratory has started to incorporate physiological size within these psychedelic sessions as a tool that the guides can refer people to before the session begins, teaching it to them. So they realize they can calm themselves down if necessary in real-time...when people are inside of the psychedelic session, if they feel their anxiety levels are going too high...By using the physiological sigh inside of the psychedelic session, Dr. Johnson's laboratory...are starting to use breathing techniques such as the physiological sigh as a way for these people who are under the influence of psilocybin to self-direct their own calm

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A reduction in dendritic spines in frontal cortex neurons occurs in depressed patients as shown in postmortem tissue, and treatments that relieve depression, both drug and behavioral treatments, correlate with increases in dendritic spine growth, suggesting that psilocybin's therapeutic effects for depression may operate through restoration of spine density.

causalhigh valueestablishednovelty 2/4durability 3/4· Andrew Huberman

a reduction in the number of dendritic spines, these little mushroom shaped protrusions in the frontal cortex neurons of humans occurs in depressed patients. We know that from postmortem tissue. And that drugs that relieve depression or that treatments including behavioral treatments, that provide some relief from depression do seem to be correlated with increases in spine growth in frontal cortex neurons as well. So this raises a very interesting idea, which is perhaps it's the growth of new connections, these new dendritic spines in particular neurons. That's created by administration of psilocybin. That explains the relief from depression that people experience

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Having eyes closed for the majority of a psilocybin session is critical for therapeutic benefit because it limits focus on external visual hallucinations and allows the person to go inward to combine internal mind's eye visuals with thoughts, memories, and emotional changes, making the inward focus rather than external perception the key to effective therapeutic outcomes.

normativehigh valueestablishednovelty 2/4durability 3/4· Andrew Huberman

if people are to take psilocybin and have their eyes open, much of their cognition, much of their thinking, much of the time spent in that psilocybin journey is focused on the altered perceptions of things in the outside environment...if one's goal is to derive long-lasting benefit from the psilocybin experience, it's very clear that having an eye mask or some other eye covering or something that ensures that one's eyes are closed for the majority, if not, the entire psilocybin session is going to be very useful

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After instances in the late 1960s and early 1970s when people took LSD without proper set and setting, such as staring at the sun until going blind or harming others, these incidents became bases for invoking the Controlled Substances Act to criminalize psychedelics, and the lesson is that proper set and setting is not optional but critical for legitimacy and future legalization.

factualhigh valueestablishednovelty 1/4durability 4/4· Andrew Huberman

in the late 1960s and early 1970s when the Controlled Substances Act was invoked to make psychedelics like psilocybin illegal, one of the bases for that was not just the geopolitical unrest at the time...but also some highlighted instances in which people did not take set and setting into consideration, took things like LSD, stared at the sun, went blind. Or took psilocybin, went out, and harmed somebody else...the exact instances that lead to criminalization...it's such a critical time in the history and the use of psychedelics for therapeutic and other reasons...Getting setting correct, meaning making it absolutely as safe as possible for the person taking the psychedelic is absolutely key

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Approximately 90% of the serotonin in the brain and body is manufactured in the gut, but the serotonin in the brain is manufactured separately from gut serotonin by specific neurons in the brain, contradicting the popular belief that brain serotonin comes from gut serotonin.

factualhigh valueestablishednovelty 2/4durability 4/4· Andrew Huberman

yes, it's true that about 90% of the serotonin in your brain and body is manufactured in your gut. However, contrary to popular belief, the serotonin in your brain is not manufactured from the serotonin in your gut. You have separate independent sources of serotonin. That is you have particular neurons that make serotonin in your brain. You also have serotonin in your gut and those work more or less in parallel separately.

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Neurogenesis (the addition of new neurons) is not the dominant mechanism of brain change in the adult human brain during learning, memory formation, or in response to psilocybin, despite being a popular concept, and probably accounts for only 1-2% of rewiring events important to us, with dendritic growth and spine formation being far more important.

factualhigh valueestablishednovelty 2/4durability 4/4· Andrew Huberman

while neurogenesis is a really sticky idea and it makes great headlines, the addition of new neurons is not really the way that the brain changes under psilocybin, other psychedelics, or just generally. It's perhaps responsible for maybe 1% to 2%, and I'm being generous there, of the rewiring events that are going to be most important for all of us...Until further evidence comes out to the contrary, that's certainly where I and here I feel comfortable speaking for the majority of neuroscientists out there, professional neuroscientists. That is the paper showing adult neurogenesis are interesting, but they don't really explain most of the plasticity that occurs in the adult human brain

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Oceanic boundlessness—a sense of experiencing something mystical beyond ordinary experience, feeling connected to one's environment, guides, oneself, past, present, and perhaps the entire universe—is one of the key features of a positive psychedelic experience and is positively correlated with therapeutic outcomes from psilocybin for depression.

factualhigh valueestablishednovelty 2/4durability 3/4· Andrew Huberman

one of the key features, if not, the key feature of a positive quote-unquote psychedelic experience is this sense of oceanic boundlessness occurring at some point during the psychedelic journey...The intensity of that experience of oceanic boundlessness, the mystical experience seems to be positively correlated with positive therapeutic outcomes. That is relief from major depression

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During psilocybin journeys, perceptual blending or synesthesia occurs where different sensory modalities merge, such as music changing the intensity of internal visual hallucinations, breathing becoming linked to auditory perception, or hand movements on a surface creating perceived changes in music frequency, representing a reduction in sensory modularity and integration of perception.

factualhigh valueestablishednovelty 2/4durability 3/4· Andrew Huberman

if they take their fingertips and rub them across the couch or the chair that they happen to be lying down or sitting on, that they will experience a change in the music. Maybe even if they move their hand up, they hear an increase in frequency of sound. They move their hand down, they hear a decrease in frequency of sound. And all of this is linked to their emotional state at the same time and vice versa

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The typical duration of a psilocybin journey is 4 to 6 hours, with effects beginning 30 to 45 minutes after ingestion, a peak component with maximum emotional intensity and anxiety around 2 hours in, followed by gradual tapering described as 'parachuting back in' toward the 6-hour mark.

factualhigh valueestablishednovelty 1/4durability 4/4· Andrew Huberman

the typical duration of the psilocybin journey is anywhere from 4 to 6 hours...people start experiencing about 30 to 45 minutes after ingesting psilocybin...There's a peak component in which there's a maximal intensity of emotion and often that's also associated with anxiety...tapers off slowly toward the 6-hour mark

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A 2022 New England Journal of Medicine study (No Surprise: Single Dose Psilocybin for Treatment-Resistant Major Depression) found that a single 25-milligram dose of synthetic psilocybin provided significantly greater relief from treatment-resistant depression at week 3 compared to 10-milligram or 1-milligram placebo doses, with relief remaining stable through week 12.

factualhigh valueestablishednovelty 1/4durability 4/4· Andrew Huberman

the change in baseline levels of depression that is at week three following the psilocybin session was significantly better. That is people experienced more relief or more people experienced more relief from the 25 milligram dose than from the 1 milligram dose. And this is important. There was no significant difference between the 10 milligram dose and the 1 milligram dose...They still saw a significant degree of depression relief 12 weeks after the single 25-milligram psilocybin dose session

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People should not eat for at least four hours prior to a psilocybin journey because food in the gut impacts gut acidity, which affects the conversion of psilocybin to psilocin and thus the consistency and timing of drug effects.

normativehigh valueestablishednovelty 1/4durability 3/4· Andrew Huberman

it was advised that people not have any food in their gut at the time in which they ingest or are injected with the psilocybin...psilocybin mushrooms...psilocybin that's converted to psilocin in the gut by the acidity of the gut. And the acidity of the gut is going to be impacted by the various foods that people eat. And so that's one of the major reasons why people are advised to not eat for at least four hours prior to the psilocybin journey

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People age 25 years and younger should not use psilocybin because their brains are still in a period of rampant developmental neuroplasticity, and the studies to date focus only on adults 25 years and older.

normativehigh valueestablishednovelty 0/4durability 4/4· Andrew Huberman

everything I'm talking about today unless I say otherwise is really focused on adults, meaning people who are 25 years old or older. That is their basic wiring and rewiring of the brain that we call developmental neuroplasticity is completed...Most of the studies today that I'll talk about involve subjects ranging from 25 years of age out to about 70 years of age, but no one younger

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Adverse events were observed in essentially every dose group in the single-dose psilocybin trial, with higher incidence and severity in the 25-milligram group, ranging from mild transient side effects like headaches and anxiety to severe effects including suicidal ideation, illustrating the dose-response curve for both benefits and risks.

factualhigh valueestablishednovelty 0/4durability 4/4· Andrew Huberman

there were adverse events in essentially every group. The number of adverse events was highest in the 25-milligram dose group...With higher dosages, there tends to be greater relief from depressive symptoms, but also a greater chance for adverse events. Some of those adverse events can be quite severe. So feelings of suicidal ideation, et cetera. Some of them one could consider a little less severe, mild headache, or severe headache that was transient, or anxiety that was transient

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Setting for a psilocybin journey must ensure physical safety with no windows to jump from, no streets with cars, no bodies of water, and requires presence of one or more sober individuals not also taking psychedelics to monitor the person and prevent self-harm or harm to others.

normativehigh valueestablishednovelty 0/4durability 4/4· Andrew Huberman

The setting for a psychedelic journey needs to be one in which the person under the influence of the psilocybin or other psychedelic is safe. That means no windows they can jump out of, that means no streets of moving cars, they can run out into. That means no opportunity for getting lost. That means no opportunity for getting into bodies of water. In other words, it requires that there be at least one, and perhaps even two or more other individuals who are not also taking psychedelics who are not also taking psychedelics present in that setting to ensure that the person taking the psilocybin is not going to harm themselves or others

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Psilocybin should be contraindicated in people who have existing predisposition to psychotic episodes or bipolar episodes, people with first-degree relatives who have psychosis, schizophrenia, schizotypal issues, borderline personality disorder, or related psychiatric conditions, as psilocybin can trigger psychotic episodes both during and potentially in a long-standing way.

normativehigh valueestablishednovelty 0/4durability 4/4· Andrew Huberman

people who have existing or have a predisposition to psychotic episodes or bipolar episodes, even having a first relative who has bipolar, or schizophrenic, or schizotypal issues can be a rule out condition, that is can get someone eliminated from a clinical study on psilocybin for fear of triggering psychotic episodes, not just during the psilocybin journey, but potentially in a long standing way

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Clinical trial participants with depression are typically required to stop taking antidepressant medications before psilocybin treatment, but all subjects are encouraged not to avoid restarting medications if their clinician determines it is necessary for survival, and the point is not to recommend that people on SSRIs should stop their medications but to note that trial protocols required this for study design reasons.

factualhigh valueestablishednovelty 0/4durability 4/4· Andrew Huberman

it's a general feature of these trials that people are asked to stop taking their antidepressants prior to participating in the trial...all subjects were encouraged not to avoid taking those antidepressant medications if, in fact, their clinician felt that it was important for their immediate and long-term survival...no one should be reckless in thinking about what to add or delete from their drug protocol when dealing with depression

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Studies using mouse models to investigate psilocybin-induced structural plasticity typically used doses around 1 milligram per kilogram of body weight, which translates to approximately double the human therapeutic dose, so effects observed in rodent studies may require higher relative doses than what's used clinically.

factualhigh valueestablishednovelty 2/4durability 3/4· Andrew Huberman

most of the studies looking at changes in plasticity in the mouse brain in response to psilocybin use the equivalent of 1 milligrams per kilogram of body weight...it's about double, the sorts of dosages that are typically used in humans. Maybe even triple in some cases

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Depression can be understood as people living out habitual negative contingencies (if A happens, then B will happen, leading to C) where attempts to improve situations repeatedly fail, and psilocybin can invoke new patterns of learning and consideration of different possibilities, ejecting people from these habitual thought patterns.

causalhigh valuecontestednovelty 2/4durability 3/4· Andrew Huberman

when we look at depression, we often think diminished mood, people don't have an appetite, they're not interested in social relationships, or romantic relationships. They're really struggling. And all of that, of course, is true. But another lens to look at depression through is that a lot of that thinking and a lot of those emotional states that are negative are somewhat habitual. They relate to implicit understanding and living out of the idea that A leads to B leads to C. You seek out a relationship, it doesn't work out. Try a new job, you don't get the job. You get the job, it's no good. All these negative outcomes of if A, then B, then C. And it does seem that psilocybin can have this effect of invoking new patterns of learning. New considerations about what might be possible.

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Serotonin is involved in dozens, if not hundreds, and maybe even thousands of different functions throughout the body and brain—satiety, mood, pleasure, motivation, sleep, appetite, libido—which is why SSRIs that increase general serotonin transmission tend to have many side effects related to all these systems.

factualhigh valueestablishednovelty 1/4durability 4/4· Andrew Huberman

Serotonin and all these different receptors that it binds to has dozens, if not hundreds, and maybe even thousands of different functions...serotonin is involved in so many different things because there are a lot of different so-called serotonin receptors...serotonin is involved in so many different things...And that is one reason why certain antidepressant medications which alter either increase or decrease the amount of serotonin transmission in the brain will often have a lot of side effects

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The strongest evidence for psilocybin's therapeutic use is for cancer-related depression, cancer-related anxiety, and treatment-resistant depression; there is moderate evidence for alcohol use disorder, dependence, and tobacco addiction; and weaker evidence for obsessive compulsive disorder, cluster headaches, migraines, and demoralization due to AIDS diagnosis.

factualhigh valueestablishednovelty 1/4durability 3/4· Andrew Huberman

the most evidence for positive therapeutic outcomes in response to psilocybin taken and conducted in the manner...is for cancer-related depression, cancer-related anxiety, and treatment resistant depression. That's where most of the evidence resides. There's also some evidence for the use of psilocybin journeys...in alcohol use disorder, and dependence, and tobacco addiction. And then finally, there's the least amount of evidence. Although there is clinical trial support for relief or partial relief for obsessive compulsive disorder, cluster headaches and migraines, and demoralization due to AIDS diagnosis

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Psilocybin and other psychedelics are powerful drugs that cause long-standing changes after the acute effects wear off, and possessing or selling psilocybin remains illegal under federal law in the United States except in rare clinical studies and decriminalized areas like Oregon.

factualhigh valueestablishednovelty 0/4durability 3/4· Andrew Huberman

psilocybin is still a Schedule I drug. It is considered illegal in the United States...Possessing or certainly selling psilocybin, except for rare instances, such as clinical studies and these decriminalized areas that I talked about a moment ago is still very much not allowed under the law

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Psilocybin was given breakthrough therapy status by the FDA approximately five years ago (around 2018), which has accelerated clinical research, whereas it was previously criminalized for decades under the Controlled Substances Act since 1970, blocking most research.

factualhigh valueestablishednovelty 0/4durability 3/4· Andrew Huberman

because of the Controlled Substances Act being invoked in 1970 in the United States, and because it was only just a few years ago really, only about five years ago, that psychedelics including psilocybin received what's called a breakthrough status at the FDA

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There are four prominent theories about which brain networks are most activated during psilocybin journeys, including changes in the default mode network, and while these theories are not competing but complementary, they all point to more extensive communication between brain areas that normally operate less actively at the same time, with the controversy relating to which networks change the most to explain therapeutic outcomes.

factualhigh valueestablishednovelty 1/4durability 3/4· Andrew Huberman

there are not one, not two, not three, but four prominent theories of which brain networks are most activated during a psilocybin or other psychedelic journey...they are not competing models. While some of them disagree about some of the details. It's very likely that all of these models are true...The controversy in the field relates to which of these networks is the one that changes the most to explain the therapeutic outcomes

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Robin Carhart-Harris, a professor at University of California San Francisco and one of the major pioneers in psychedelic research, emphasized that music plays a critical role not just as incidental setting, but as one of the major drivers of the cognitive and emotional experience during psilocybin journeys, allowing the experience to be regarded as one of the most profound and positive experiences people have in their lives.

factualhigh valueestablishednovelty 1/4durability 3/4· Andrew Huberman

When I first heard about this from one of the Premier researchers on psilocybin and other psychedelics which is Robin Carhart-Harris, he's a professor at University of California San Francisco, who's one of the major pioneers in the studies of psychedelics...he really underscored for me the extent to which music is not just an incidental feature of the setting in psychedelic set and setting, but that it is one of the major drivers of the actual cognitive and emotional experience that somebody has on something like psilocybin that allows the psilocybin journey to be looked at or viewed, not just as beneficial, but, and this is quoted in the scientific literature as one of the most profound and important positive experiences that one ever experienced in their life

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Just because something invokes neuroplasticity and changes brain circuitry does not mean it is therapeutic—for neuroplasticity to be therapeutic, it has to be adaptive and allow someone to function better in life, which is why conditions like set and setting, dosage, guide presence, and post-session integration are critical to determining whether psilocybin-induced plasticity is beneficial or harmful.

normativehigh valuespeaker onlynovelty 2/4durability 4/4· Andrew Huberman

just because something invokes neuroplasticity changes in brain circuitry does not mean that it's therapeutic, or I should say, does not necessarily mean that it's therapeutic. For neuroplasticity to be therapeutic, it has to be adaptive, it has to allow someone to function better in life than they did previously

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Psilocybin does not typically cause long-term memory deficits despite increasing connectivity and reducing modularity in the brain, which suggests that the increased connectivity is not shuffling information chaotically but rather producing adaptive rewiring.

factualhigh valuecontestednovelty 1/4durability 3/4· Andrew Huberman

one of the key things that I gleaned from the literature on the therapeutic use of psilocybin for the treatment of depression is that very seldom, do people who take psilocybin experience long-term issues with memory. Why is that so critical? Well, you could imagine that increasing connectivity in the brain reducing modularity, reducing hierarchical organization of the brain would lead to disruptions in memory, right? It's as if you're shuffling books on the bookshelf so to speak. But that doesn't seem to be the case. Rather it seems that the increase in connectivity is leading provided set and setting are correct, provided safety protocols are followed to positive rewiring or adaptive rewiring of neural tissue.

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Five major researchers contributing to psilocybin research include Robin Carhart-Harris, Matthew Johnson, Roland Griffiths, Nolan Williams, and many others who have pioneered legal efforts, funding efforts, and defining clinical data demonstrating psilocybin's therapeutic potential.

factualhigh valueestablishednovelty 0/4durability 3/4· Andrew Huberman

researchers such as Robin Carhart-Harris, but also Matthew Johnson, Roland Griffiths, Nolan Williams, and many others...have really pioneered both the legal efforts, and the funding efforts, and most importantly, the research efforts defining the clinical data

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As psilocybin becomes more legal and regulated, and as synthetic psilocybin becomes more prevalent compared to mushroom-based psilocybin, dosage consistency will improve because dosing will depend on pharmaceutical formulation rather than variable mushroom concentration.

forecasthigh valuespeaker onlynovelty 0/4durability 3/4· Andrew Huberman

So the sourcing is really key obviously as things become more legal, and more regulated, and more used in the therapeutic setting. And this is what's happening more and more. Or as people start to rely on synthetically made psilocybin as opposed to using mushrooms to ingest psilocybin. Then certainly, the dosage thing is going to be more consistent from batch to batch because we're not talking about batches of mushrooms, we're talking about batches of psilocybin itself.