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Podcast· Feb 2022· cataloged

John Pfeffer - Adapt and Evolve - [Invest Like the Best, EP. 262]


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Patrick hosts John Pfeffer, an entrepreneur and investor with deep experience across private equity, operational leadership, and independent wealth management. Pfeffer spent the 2000s as a partner at KKR, ran a major French IT company in the prior decade, and now deploys capital through his family office, Pfeffer Capital. The conversation traces his evolution as an investor across these phases and explores the ideas shaping his current allocation decisions, including a substantial concentration in a single asset class and his framework for understanding how businesses adapt in changing markets.

The episode spans Pfeffer's investment philosophy and the experiences that built it. Early sections cover his approach to technology investing, his observations on tech-dependent businesses since 2011, and how he distinguishes strong businesses from weak ones—particularly around which face genuine disruption risk. A significant portion examines his analysis of cryptoassets, drawing on a formal paper he has written on the subject; this includes both Bitcoin specifically and alternative business models within the crypto ecosystem. Throughout, a central theme emerges around the distinction between value creation and value capture—the observation that where value gets extracted in a system can shift materially, reshaping investment returns independent of the underlying business quality. The conversation also touches on growth without operational inertia and what adaptation means for investors in the current environment.

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There is a meaningful difference between value creation and value capture, and a shift in where value is captured can materially affect investment returns.

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We discussed the difference between value creation and value capture, why John has made such a big bet on one asset and why adaptation has become more important than ever.