People will not risk their lives and safety for a vision they cannot imagine, so successful movements require utopianism—a vision of a better world—paired with realistic assessment of the need for ongoing struggle without final victory.

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Speaker

Stephen Hanson

Evidence Quote

People are not going to put themselves on the line for a world that they can't quite imagine... It's always going to be an ongoing process of rethinking, interrogating, and changing

Source

The Very American Roots of Trumpism | The Ezra Klein ShowThe Ezra Klein Show
Created: 8/11/2026, 6:26:44 AM

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