Chase characterizes Godin as a systemic thinker who builds frameworks and scaffolding around conversations, which enables creativity to flow. Yet the book has 297 riffs with no obvious scaffolding—an apparent contradiction worth reconciling.
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“I think of you as a very systemic thinker like when we have a conversation there's almost always a framework for that conversation there's context there's know all this scaffolding around it”
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