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Doomberg's Commodity Warning and Why You Should Stock Up on Canned Food


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What do natural gas prices have to do with the cost of food? How should you think about geopolitical maneuvering around the energy market? Tony Greer goes deep into the global consequences of commodities with Substack star Doomberg. The green chicken explains how deeply interconnected commodities markets are, pushes back on the ESG movement, and says nuclear energy has gotten a bad rap. “Energy is life,” says the blogger, who warns that power shortages and inflated food prices may be bringing us to the brink of catastrophe. Doomberg and Tony also delve into market consequences from the Omicron variant, and Tony reveals why he’s starting to fill his garage with emergency supplies. Recorded on December 2, 2021.

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Current U.S. and European energy policy creates cascading supply chain crises by restricting fossil fuels without adequate alternatives in place, causing commodity shortages and inflation that will force a political reversal and create explosive trading opportunities in energy and related commodities.

  • Restricting natural gas and oil production while pushing EVs and renewables without grid storage creates energy scarcity that destabilizes manufacturing and agriculture globally
  • Europe's energy crisis demonstrates the predictable collapse of policy that phases out baseload power without replacement, concentrating geopolitical leverage with hostile actors like Russia
  • Commodity supply constraints (uranium, copper, natural gas) combined with political-driven demand destruction create temporary price relief followed by volcanic eruptions when constraints reassert

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Commodity supply projects are capital-intensive, multi-year, low-return-on-capital undertakings; any economic uncertainty causes capital to freeze, preventing new supply from coming online when prices spike.

causalhigh valueestablishednovelty 2/4durability 4/4· Doomberg

the supply and demand doesn't get just get turned on with a switch these are actually asset intents low return on capital projects that require huge engineering and technology prowess to even pull off if you mix in the slightest of economic uncertainty capital freezes up

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Replacing coal-fired electricity plants with natural gas is environmentally better because natural gas burns cleaner, produces more electricity per unit of CO2 emissions, and has far fewer toxic byproducts, making it a rational intermediate step toward decarbonization rather than an endpoint.

factualhigh valueestablishednovelty 2/4durability 4/4· Doomberg

replacing coal-fired electricity plants with natural gas is better for the environment it burns cleaner you produce more electricity for the same amount of co2 emissions far less toxic byproducts

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Higher fertilizer costs force farmers to either reduce planting (cutting crop supply) or demand higher food prices; combined with supply chain disruptions, this threatens food security in emerging economies where food price inflation equals death for billions at the margin.

causalhigh valueestablishednovelty 2/4durability 4/4· Doomberg

if you're an american farmer who paid you know two hundred dollars for your fertilizer last spring and you budgeted 300 and the bill comes in at 12.50 maybe you're not going to buy fertilizer maybe you're going to plant less crop for sure your margins are going to get squeezed or food prices have to go up

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Natural gas price spikes in Europe (to $30+ per million BTU) destroy the economics of chemical manufacturers like BASF who operate on much lower costs; they will declare force majeure on supply contracts and cease production rather than operate at a loss.

causalhigh valueestablishednovelty 2/4durability 3/4· Doomberg

ask basf in germany what's it like to be sitting there with 30 per million btu natural gas and trying to be a chemical producer right

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Just-in-time supply chains were broken by pandemic lockdowns and subsequent inflation; corporations now must rebuild working capital and inventory buffers, which creates an additional deflationary impulse as businesses stockpile.

causalhigh valueestablishednovelty 2/4durability 3/4· Doomberg

we've written a lot about the just-in-time supply chain crisis and we do think that major corporations uh many have said it before it's almost a cliche now but from just in time to just in case uh does give an inflationary pulse as businesses rethink how much working capital they need to you know safely operate their facilities

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Once Sprott creates liquid trading opportunities and price discovery in uranium, the efficient market hypothesis suggests uranium will eventually be cheaper than it would have been in illiquid markets; Sprott is creating efficiency that lowers long-term prices.

causalhigh valueestablishednovelty 2/4durability 3/4· Doomberg

as people are able to hedge as people are able to um prepare for seasonality and free buy and things like that the efficient market hypothesis basically which is true you know um as at least this applied in this context is that in the long run sprott will make uranium cheaper than it would have been otherwise doesn't mean that it's going to be cheaper than it is today

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China responded to its energy crisis (driven by European LNG demand spike) by restricting phosphate exports to preserve domestic energy supply for manufacturing, illustrating how energy constraints cascade to other commodities and trigger nationalist supply-hoarding behavior.

causalhigh valueestablishednovelty 2/4durability 3/4· Doomberg

china responding to its energy crisis echo from europe decided to ban the exports of phosphates

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Managing constraints (identifying bottlenecks and optimizing around them) is the foundational principle of operations management in heavy industry; supply chain disruptions are constraints that amplify when growth or supply shocks occur, creating opportunities for traders who identify emerging constraints.

definitionhigh valueestablishednovelty 2/4durability 3/4· Doomberg

you can't you have to manage your constraints and um you know if you're talking about huge billion dollar projects and suddenly you can't get copper that throws a wrench in the whole supply chain and so we look for arbitrage situations and we look for situations where growth and or supply shocks create new constraints that the market doesn't quite see

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Capital expenditures by oil and gas majors have increased slightly over last year but remain far below levels from the 2000s boom period; oil markets lack sufficient exploration and reserve replacement activity to support current production levels without drawing down existing reserves.

factualhigh valueestablishednovelty 2/4durability 3/4· Doomberg

if you look at the capital expenditures of the majors there they might be up slightly over last year but they're nowhere near where they were uh in the go-go days um josh um from bison research his last name is escaping me um he he's put out some pretty fascinating pieces uh of questioning whether opec's access supply does even exist

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Vancouver port disruptions (floods, railway damage to Canadian National) threaten global coking coal supply; coking coal is critical for steel production, and port delays are creating supply constraints and shipping backlogs that are being under-reported in mainstream media.

factualhigh valueestablishednovelty 2/4durability 3/4· Doomberg

we had the mudslide and the floods they have this um ongoing series of drenching rain these storms just seem to keep pouring in from the pacific canadian national is having a lot of trouble getting the railroad um rebuilt and people in the us might think that that's not a big deal but vancouver is a very important critical infrastructure port a lot of the world's coking coal seaborn coking coal comes there which feeds steel plants you know supply chains are tough but i saw there were more than a dozen coal ships out at sea waiting to be filled

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Three-Mile Island accident did not injure anyone; it catalyzed industry-wide adoption of much safer reactor designs, making modern nuclear power plants significantly safer than historical designs.

factualhigh valueestablishednovelty 1/4durability 4/4· Doomberg

the three-mile island accident which by the way didn't injure anybody that accident really spooked the industry and they went into overdrive on new safe designs

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Household prepping is insurance against supply chain disruption; just as households insure their homes against fire (unlikely), they should maintain 30-45 days of consumable inventory as insurance against supply shocks.

normativehigh valueestablishednovelty 1/4durability 4/4· Doomberg

i pay insurance on my home every year i've paid insurance in my home every year i've had one so have you at the end of the year when my house hasn't burned down i don't bemoan the fact that i paid that insurance bill right um and so why why wouldn't i happily pay my insurance well the the home is a physical entity it's an important one important asset on my balance sheet but so too is the health and well-being of my family

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When facing a choice between freezing (due to lack of natural gas) or burning coal (producing CO2), people choose to heat their homes; this practical human behavior breaks abstract environmental policy commitments.

factualhigh valueestablishednovelty 1/4durability 4/4· Doomberg

when you short the country of natural gas and you got a big giant pile of coal right there and your choice is i'm going to heat my house and kick out a few more molecules of co2 or i'm going to freeze the choice is easy

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A billion people on Earth lack sufficient energy access to enjoy reasonable lives; energy policy should begin from a 'human first' perspective that acknowledges this, rather than restricting supply based on ideology.

normativehigh valueestablishednovelty 1/4durability 4/4· Doomberg

there's you know a billion people on the planet that don't have access to a sufficient amount of energy to enjoy a reasonable life um and we're talking about restricting energy supply uh to um impact co2 emissions

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The fossil fuel industry is a critical input into virtually all goods and services produced globally; price spikes in natural gas snap through delicate supply chains and produce cascading failures in packaging, food preservation, transportation, and manufacturing.

factualhigh valueestablishednovelty 1/4durability 4/4· Doomberg

the fossil fuel industry the energy and gas sector as you would call it is also the key input into virtually everything that we see and use in our daily lives and we wrote a piece called where stuff comes from just to like show people that you know if you snap a whip uh on natural gas in europe that's going to snap through very delicate supply chains

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Nuclear waste disposal is a solved technical problem that can be safely managed (Yucca Mountain project), but remains an unsolved political problem due to Nevada senator Harry Reid's opposition; describing it as 'technical' is misleading.

factualhigh valuecontestednovelty 2/4durability 4/4· Doomberg

nuclear waste is a solved technical problem it can be done it's not a challenge it's political you don't want to do it in yucca mountain well you could do it in yucca mountain but you know harry reid was a senator from nevada and he put put that project on ice but don't tell me it's a technical problem

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Wind and solar are intermittent power sources that cannot serve as baseload power because the wind doesn't always blow and the sun doesn't always shine; successful grid operation requires baseload sources like natural gas, nuclear, or coal.

factualhigh valueestablishednovelty 1/4durability 4/4· Doomberg

they replace the nameplate capacity with intermittent power producing technologies like wind and solar which is great except they don't they're very poor uh base load power they're not baseball power they're intermittent power because the wind doesn't always blow and the sun doesn't always shine and uh natural gas and nuclear and coal are base load powers

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Putin effectively controls European natural gas prices due to his monopoly on pipeline supply; this geopolitical leverage is the most important factor determining European energy policy and prosperity in the near term.

factualhigh valueestablishednovelty 1/4durability 3/4· Doomberg

putin is the um is is the the fed chair for natural gas prices in europe and asia right

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Nuclear energy is demonized by environmentalists despite being the cleanest, safest, and most economical way to produce baseload electricity; Germany and California are closing nuclear plants at the very moment they face energy crises, demonstrating the failure of ideology over pragmatism.

causalhigh valueestablishednovelty 1/4durability 3/4· Doomberg

nuclear energy is very demonized by this very same people who proclaim to care about the planet and abating co2 emissions that there is no cleaner safer more economic way to produce the electricity that we americans enjoy in the world enjoys than through nuclear power and yet we are setting about the process of not only not building out nuclear energy here but letting existing nuclear energy facilities um go offline

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Europe's energy crisis was predictable and preventable because utilities had historically low storage heading into winter, relying on pipeline imports from Russia at the precise moment they were phasing out domestic fossil fuel production and replacing it with intermittent renewable power.

factualhigh valueestablishednovelty 1/4durability 3/4· Doomberg

it was all very predictable i was listening to podcasts in the summer where people were pointing out that they were heading into the fall with the least amount of storage they've ever had that this was going to be a huge crisis

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Doomberg comes from a heavy industry background with decades of combined experience among partners in a bespoke consulting firm; this industrial vantage point provides unique insight into commodity markets that differs from pure trading or financial analysis perspectives.

factualhigh valueestablishednovelty 1/4durability 3/4· Doomberg

in real life we run a bespoke consulting firm um the the partners in our firm all come from heavy industry and combined we have several decades of experience in the what people would call the commodity sector uh we write about markets we observe markets we're not traders and we don't give investment advice but we come at the markets from a technology science and you know managerial experience background in the real world

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Government SPR (Strategic Petroleum Reserve) releases are optical/political responses to commodity price pressures rather than genuine solutions to supply constraints; releasing reserves temporarily lowers prices but does not address underlying supply deficit.

causalhigh valueestablishednovelty 1/4durability 3/4· Tony Greer

you know they're they're back in you know they're back on the uh control again right oil's falling they're saying hey you know what we might do more of an spr release right so it's really this whole trade for me

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Commodity market pricing sends real signals to entrepreneurs and producers about where arbitrage opportunities exist and where investment is needed; traders who understand these signals can position ahead of physical supply responses.

factualhigh valueestablishednovelty 1/4durability 3/4· Tony Greer

it's really interesting that um you know how you say that the market is sending signals right like the the there are real signals now to entrepreneurs you know in the commodity space regarding these price differences that are happening in the arbitrage opportunities

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Plug-in hybrid electric vehicles are a superior transition technology compared to full battery electric vehicles because they consume fewer rare earth minerals (lithium, cobalt, nickel) per vehicle, reducing mining pressure and environmental impact during the EV transition.

normativehigh valuecontestednovelty 2/4durability 3/4· Doomberg

in the car space that you just talked about we think plug-in hybrids are a better transition technology because it uses less batteries which means you rely less on nickel copper lithium and all that the green metals as they're trying to relabel themselves for full battery electric vehicles

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Europe is in a geopolitically weak negotiating position with Russia ('poker with a seven-deuce offsuit vs Putin's pocket aces') and must hope for warm weather or face serious consequences including rolling blackouts, manufacturing shutdowns, and potentially the dissolution of the EU as nations pursue nationalist energy policies.

forecasthigh valuecontestednovelty 2/4durability 3/4· Doomberg

germany still thinking it has cards to play they're sitting at the poker table with a seven deuce off suit um you know putin is sitting there with pocket aces and they go all in uh he's gonna call your bluff

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The Biden administration canceled the Keystone pipeline while simultaneously requesting OPEC to produce more oil, which is logically self-defeating because it cedes control over U.S. energy policy and therefore sovereignty to actors who are hostile or unreliable.

causalhigh valuecontestednovelty 2/4durability 3/4· Doomberg

we are going to seed the control over our energy policies and energy is life so we're going to concede control over our lives to people who don't like us and that's bonkers and we're already seeing the binding administration backtrack on it

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The combination of lockdown-driven deflation, fiscal stimulus, reopening inflation, and supply chain constraints creates a volatile cycle where each reopening produces worse inflation than the previous one, not temporary spikes.

causalhigh valuecontestednovelty 2/4durability 3/4· Doomberg

the original lockdown triggered a huge deflationary air pocket in the economy then our response to the opening of you know the combination of fiscal monetary response and then the reopening of the economy and the speed with which that happened created an inflationary pulse there's a huge debate as you know in the inflation deflation camp

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Prescription medications are critical prepping priorities; pharmacies may close during supply disruptions, and loss of medication access could seriously harm family health or life.

normativehigh valueestablishednovelty 1/4durability 3/4· Doomberg

if i if it's the only thing that people do that are listening if you have serious prescription drugs that you need to maintain a healthy life have some working capital invested there the pharmacies might close right what are you going to do in that case

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Sprott Physical Uranium Trust trades in Canada on OTC markets in the U.S. but has applied for New York Stock Exchange listing, which would dramatically increase institutional investor access and buying power.

factualhigh valueestablishednovelty 1/4durability 2/4· Doomberg

one of the challenges with the sprott physical uranium trust is it trades in canada it only trades otc here in the us and they're applying for a new york stock exchange listing which of course will get them a lot more you know access to potential funds to continue to chew up the supply

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Peru's leftist government is undertaking classic nationalization steps regarding copper mines; commodity investors and companies face uncertainty about 20-year project economics and may delay capital commitments pending political clarity.

factualhigh valueestablishednovelty 1/4durability 2/4· Doomberg

what's going on in peru you know with the copper mines left-wing government coming in sort of seems to be embarking on all of the classic steps of nationalization then you have to study whether such a government could survive and will the pres will the the leadership be impeached

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The Biden administration has begun backtracking on initial energy policy positions (e.g., reconsidering Keystone, considering reserve releases) after observing commodity price consequences; this suggests politicians will eventually acknowledge policy errors as optics deteriorate.

factualhigh valueestablishednovelty 1/4durability 2/4· Doomberg

we're already seeing the binding administration backtrack on it and we could have saved them the round trip if they would just stop and think about it and say hey you know maybe we should think about putting more nuclear capacity online

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Illinois recently extended the life of nuclear power plants as part of budget negotiations, and California is reconsidering closing a major nuclear facility due to grid stress; these are milestone signals of political sentiment shifting toward nuclear.

factualhigh valueestablishednovelty 1/4durability 2/4· Doomberg

illinois recently decided to extend the life of a couple of nuclear power plants as part of a budget process one to watch would be this nuclear facility in california if they go through with closing it down gee that tells you something

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Chicago police union successfully resisted vaccine mandates, suggesting that labor organizing can override vaccine policy; this political win signals that aggregate vaccine mandate enforcement will weaken.

factualhigh valueestablishednovelty 1/4durability 2/4· Doomberg

if you start to see governments getting toppled as populations protest the lockdowns and maybe you start to see like what we saw in chicago where the the police union seems to have prevailed over the mayor in their little vaccine standoff mandate standoff

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The severity of Europe's energy crisis and its impact on food prices in emerging economies will determine whether the ESG movement faces a major political reversal; if food prices spike sufficiently, the political pendulum will swing against restrictive fossil fuel policies.

forecasthigh valuecontestednovelty 2/4durability 2/4· Doomberg

a lot of it depends on how cold it gets in europe this year and whether the supply chain whips that we worry about potentially materializing because of the high price of natural gas whether those begin to show up on the shelves in the us as we approach holiday shopping season

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Uranium miners have a marginal cost of production between $65-70 per pound, but uranium was trading at $30 per pound, meaning profitable new supply could not come online despite structural supply deficits.

factualhigh valueestablishednovelty 2/4durability 2/4· Doomberg

you can draw the supply curve for uranium miners the cost curve sorry for each increment of supply and at the time you know two three months ago when copy first made this call and others obviously on uranium twitter as well uranium was selling for about thirty dollars a pound but the marginal cost of production to bring new facilities online was 65 or 70 dollars a pound

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China announced plans to build approximately 150 nuclear facilities over the next decade, creating a massive incremental source of uranium demand that intersects with Sprott's supply restriction strategy.

factualhigh valueestablishednovelty 1/4durability 3/4· Doomberg

china announced some crazy bill they'll plan of like 150 nuclear facilities over the next decade

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When demand inelasticity meets supply inelasticity in commodities (demand cannot be immediately cut even if price spikes), prices can move to extreme levels; uranium with growing nuclear demand and Sprott's sequestration could see 'crazy prices'.

forecasthigh valueestablishednovelty 1/4durability 3/4· Doomberg

in these types of commodities the inelastic demand as we're seeing with natural gas in europe you could see some crazy prices

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Copper prices should remain elevated near $10k due to structural supply constraints (Peru political risk, capital allocation delays, environmental restrictions) combined with growing EV demand.

forecasthigh valueestablishednovelty 1/4durability 3/4· Tony Greer

copper has been one of the most difficult parts of the commodity trade post lockdown because copper got right out ahead of everything got through 10k you know it was a lot of um a lot of sort of uh went along with the pushing the electronic vehicle narrative the whole world knows we're going into this you know big ev you know power curve as you say um with limited copper supplies

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Josh Young at Bison Research has questioned whether OPEC's claimed spare oil production capacity actually exists; drilling down into reserve replacement and capital expenditure, it appears the excess supply narrative is questionable.

factualhigh valuecontestednovelty 2/4durability 3/4· Doomberg

josh um from bison research his last name is escaping me um he he's put out some pretty fascinating pieces uh of questioning whether opec's access supply does even exist

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As variants become more contagious but less severe, market reactions to new variant announcements will diminish; eventually markets will 'look through' pandemic news and price the fundamental commodity situation.

forecasthigh valueestablishednovelty 1/4durability 2/4· Doomberg

as this virus plays out and we get hopefully more and more contagious variants that are less and less severe and this sort of becomes an endemic as opposed to a pandemic we're going to see less and less market reaction to whatever felchi is saying on abc news tonight and more and more looking through that news and getting ahead to what markets were supposed to do which is price the future

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Societies are becoming fatigued with lockdowns; if governments try to impose lockdowns due to new variants, populations may resist and governments may topple, creating political instability.

forecasthigh valuecontestednovelty 1/4durability 2/4· Doomberg

societies are kind of getting fed up with the whole lockdown concept and so if you start to see governments getting toppled as populations protest the lockdowns

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Sprott Physical Uranium Trust has sequestered 88 million pounds of uranium since beginning purchases, buying at spot market prices and removing supply that would otherwise be available to utilities.

factualhigh valueestablishednovelty 1/4durability 2/4· Doomberg

sprott uh just pulling them up on twitter as you were talking they have sequestered an incredible 88 million pounds of uranium just since they started buying

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U.S. natural gas is abundant and priced at $4.30/million BTU while European natural gas trades at $30/million BTU, a 7x price differential that shows a logistics arbitrage opportunity but also indicates severe supply constraints in Europe.

factualhigh valueestablishednovelty 1/4durability 2/4· Doomberg

natural gas here with a fort 430 bid this morning as i'm looking at my bloomberg where it's still 30 million btu overseas and that just shows you the issue with supply chains is if you know when things sell for radically different prices in different places it tells you there's an arbitrage opportunity and that there's a logistics plug somewhere

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ESG advocates and commodity traders agree on the desired destination (decarbonization) but disagree on the path; the 'cocktail party' approach (blanket fossil fuel bans) creates dangerous outcomes, while the 'intelligent way' uses natural gas as a bridge, builds nuclear, and develops renewables with storage.

normativehigh valuespeaker onlynovelty 2/4durability 4/4· Doomberg

we agree on the desired destination we're just arguing about the path function what's the trail look like are we going to take the smooth trail with with very little you know height gains and small hills are we going to take the trail where we have to do a a walk across a rope bridge over a a fast-moving river and hope we don't slip

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Energy is not merely electricity; it is the fundamental input to human civilization and the ability to impose order on the environment; without energy, humans cannot produce food, create shelter, transport goods, or maintain any complex society.

definitionhigh valuespeaker onlynovelty 2/4durability 4/4· Tony Greer

i like you i've listened to several of i've listened to every one of the podcasts that you've done especially with grant williams and with george cannon and i like the idea that you know you call it energy is imposing order on your local environment right energy is civilization energy is the ability to you know use nature's resources to benefit the living human beings on the planet

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Politicians consistently manage to the optics rather than to outcomes; this is a reliable principle that traders can use: assume politicians will do the worst possible thing at every juncture.

normativehigh valuespeaker onlynovelty 1/4durability 3/4· Doomberg

all american politicians in particular but most politicians in the world and all american politicians manage to the optics not to the outcomes and so you can uh you can go broke uh betting on the competence of american politics these days our political system is really broken ineffective can be counted on to do the stupidest thing possible uh at every turn

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Fauci and public health officials are the de facto 'central bankers' of commodity markets via lockdown decisions; lockdowns create deflationary shocks that temporarily suppress commodity prices, but always at the cost of postponing and amplifying the subsequent inflationary spike.

causalhigh valuespeaker onlynovelty 2/4durability 2/4· Doomberg

you need to view sort of the the lockdown politics in the same way that we've used central bank policy for normal equities and so absent this new variant i don't think we would have seen the oil pullback that we've seen because that's truly the only deflationary counter measure that is effective for derailing what otherwise was a pretty strong commodity train and so we you know you got to look at fauci the way you look at powell

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Commodity markets are currently 'bubbling' like a smoking volcano with underlying supply tightness and unmet demand; the volcano has not yet erupted but will when political/policy deferrals end and supply constraints become unavoidable.

forecasthigh valuespeaker onlynovelty 1/4durability 2/4· Doomberg

the commodity market right now is still a bubbling sort of smoking volcano and has not started erupting yet and i'm very much in the mindset that we will probably see a cold snap in europe that is going to make the volcano explode

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Uranium is one of the 'cleanest' trades because the thesis is widely known and understood; the market opportunity exists because price discovery is incomplete and most financial participants cannot easily access uranium for portfolio positioning.

factualhigh valuespeaker onlynovelty 1/4durability 2/4· Doomberg

it's one of these trades where everybody understands the thesis the thesis seems very clear but everybody knows the thesis and so is there still a trade there

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Natural gas-linked markets (natural gas futures, LNG, fertilizer stocks, copper stocks) and uranium stocks are the primary tradeable expressions of the commodity supply tightness thesis and will outperform as supply constraints manifest.

normativehigh valuespeaker onlynovelty 1/4durability 2/4· Doomberg

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The Doomberg Substack was launched approximately 7 months ago and has been successful 'beyond our wildest imagination,' suggesting strong demand for independent commodity analysis from practitioners with industrial backgrounds.

factualspeaker onlynovelty 0/4durability 2/4· Doomberg

we launched doomberg seven months ago and it's been you know successful beyond our wildest imagination